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Subject: A Thief and A Liar - Stolen Art


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Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:07 PM · edited Wed, 25 December 2024 at 7:32 AM

Attached Link: http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=41248&genre=2

The link above is to an image of mine titled "Shalaidah" at Epilogue ... the only problem is, that it's not my gallery. Someone by the name of "Khalid Loukili" has stolen two of my images and claimed them as his own. Even changed the names, and mentions info about he created them. Ain't that bitch? Here's the link to "my" image at R'osity: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=293195&Start=73&Artist=Rhiannon&ByArtist=Yes I have alerted the admin there of this violation, and posted a message in their community forum. Perhaps there are more stolen images there, who knows ... could just be isolated ... either way, I thought I should let my buds at R'osity know about it.


JurgenDoe ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:10 PM

Damn I saw it Rhi and I already posted a comment. This really sucks very much and I can imagine how much more image are there that got stolen here at RO.

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Turtle ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:14 PM

I'm so sorry, Your too nice for this to happen too. I'm almost afraid to look and see if there are more from here.

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MariByTheSea ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:22 PM

There is something that can be done about image stealing. If Renderosity would assign gallery owners a seven digit number it would prevent others from uploading images that aren't theirs. When an artist wanted to upload his pics, he would be asked his seven digit password and only then would he be allowed to upload. Course I have never uploaded to the galleries and don't even know the current procedure but maybe something along the lines of my suggestion would help.


SophiaDeer ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:25 PM

This is a disgrace. I hope the admins. there to somthing about it. I am very sorry this has happaned to you. Warm Regards, Nancy Deer With Horns (SophiaDeer)

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ilona ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:26 PM

I am so sorry too Rhi.. and hes getting "woderful" comments on how good thief and how incompetent he really is. No one can match you hun... you are the one and only! Kiiiisssssssssssssss Ilona


JurgenDoe ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:30 PM

I'll go there now and post the original url from your image so other ppl can see how incompetent this thief is :) Hopefully they will find a way to stop those thiefs soon

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Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:33 PM

Yes, it is crazy ... he even renamed this particular image "Holland, Elven Ruler of the Misty Woods." GAG!!! AND, talked about how he didn't use Poser or Bryce on the wings. Well, at least THAT'S a true story ... 'cause HE didn't ... I did. BAHHHHH!!!


Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:34 PM

Thanks GA ... you're a doll, I shoulda' thought of that. :-)


pdxjims ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:36 PM

He's not getting nice comments now. It IS a beautiful piece. At least the theif only steals from the best. Even my work gets pirated. I keep finding my stuff posted in newsgroups with no credit. I don't mind it when people use my art (although I understand a lot of people rightly do), but I expect credit for the work I've done. This takes it even further, as the image is copyrighted at both the 'sity and at Epilogue.


Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:39 PM

Bonni, I thought EXACTLY the same thing about Epilogue ... that ARE very anti-Poser, and even mention in their "submission standards" that images created with Poser or Bryce MUST be of EXCELLENT quality to be approved. I suppose I don't have to work about getting my images appproved for posting there now, huh? ROFLLLLLLLL.


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:46 PM

it is not so much that they are poser unfriendly they are just certain artist unfriendly LOL. I can not believe that epilogue has stolen art work in it..and for the guy to say that he didnt use poser in it OMG arent those the angelyna wings?

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JoeyAristophanes ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:49 PM

I did get a little giggle out of the header: 'EPILOGUE: Fantasy... at Its Best". Maybe this guy's fantasy is to actually be an artist. :)


Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:50 PM

Yup Dark Elegance, those are the Angelyna Wings ... with one of Ravenheart's textures, if I remember correctly.


jeweldragon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:50 PM

i also posted a comment too rhi mine is above marfornos i am sorry this is happening to ya i can just about imagine how you feel about now hope this all gets solved soon


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:52 PM

omg they are ever so strict about work submited and here they are with stolen work. this would be almost funny. but having your work stolen just isnt funny at all.

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DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:53 PM

oh oh oh and I posted too ehehehehehehe

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bijouchat ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:56 PM

the site is awful slow for me right now oh well... I didn't even know the site existed before. Thanks for telling me about it hehehe


Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:58 PM

Thanks ever so much all you guys ... even though this is a kinda' crappy situation and stealing someone else's work makes no sense to me, I'm having somewhat of a good laugh and snicker reading all the comments over at Epilogue. I'm soooooo bad!!! Muhahahahahahaha. LOL! Thanks for gettin' my back, love you all! <> Rhi


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 8:59 PM

aye it is very slow right now I think it is because so many of us are going after the guy that stole her pic.

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dialyn ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:00 PM

I posted too. But it looks as if the graphic may have been taken down.


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:02 PM

I think it has I just got the page back up and the pics are not here just the titles

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bijouchat ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:04 PM

ah, yes. it sucks when people steal. I never got it why someone would steal a render. I mean, so what. Its a render. Its a very nice render... but that's all it is. Few of us can manage to sell renders that are published on the net due to their poor resolution, and well... if you can't do the work yourself, you don't get any work from posting the render, either. for me, the important thing is what you know. Can you tell me how to make a render like this... etc. Its all so empty when you steal a render and you can't really do it. It makes a laughing stock of the guy when he gets caught. Its truly stupid to do this. Why do they do it... beats me, really.


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:05 PM

ooooooh and all our comments are gone too

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JVRenderer ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:08 PM

I wonder about his next image "Dark Elf"... Now who's got a dark elf in here he can steal from???





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Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:12 PM

Actually, this site kinda' sucks when it comes to the coding ... it's very, very slow. One time I can see all the comments and links and images, and the next time I cannot. Right now, I can see all the comments and the image as well. Weird. Stealing? Beats me as well ... I don't get it, it is rather stupid. I would even feel guilty if I used someone else's concept and not mention the original work my comments. Where is the personal fulfillment and joy in claiming something that did not come from your head or your heart or your soul ... or whatever? You might "wish" you had done an image, but personally, when I feel that way, I know that I need to push on and work harder and it makes me even more determined to get where I want to go. There's much more fulfillment in that, if you ask me. :-)


ilona ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:13 PM

No problem.. we write them all over again! untill someone does something about it!


jeweldragon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:14 PM

i still see them all and i cleaned out my temp files ect so they must still be there


Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:14 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=251771&Start=87&Artist=Rhiannon&ByArtist=Yes

JV, I'd say this is the one he meant when he mentioned "dark elf." It's all my oldest stuff ... guess he thought no one would notice or remember.


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:16 PM

I am trying to repost comments but the comment box wont looooooaaaaaaaddd

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JVRenderer ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:20 PM

LOL I think we all trying to get in all at the same time. There must be a bandwidth jam.





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DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:22 PM

YAY we jammmmmmmmmm his page YAY

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jeweldragon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:24 PM

hehe i got in and left another one


elizabyte ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:28 PM

Don't you wish ALL thieves posted their stolen goods to a site that has comments? >;-> bonni

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bijouchat ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:28 PM

that site is so fricking slow... its pathetic. yeah I agree... I do renders to teach myself 3d concepts... its the concepts I learned that's important to me, my renders are fun but ... its the shaders, the uvmaps and textures I've made, the 3d models I've been creating lately, the setups for lighting etc that I do that make me proud of what I can accomplish in a render. I would be real upset if someone would repost as their own in freestuff or resell - my textures or 3d models, I can say that for certain... but man... stealing a render at low res... you can't print it for anything... you can't do anything with it but say... look at me and how great I am ... (NOT!) ... these people are really pathetic. The only thing I'd be ripping mad over is when they do the tubing, and then resell them... that is theft. But then, I also never understood why any deadbeat would buy tubes of rendered artwork when they can just as easily make their own... lol. I did see an incident recently though over some gay art being entered in a contest and winning, and it wasn't the actual artist that entered the contest... that had to suck too. that would really piss me off also.


atom1972 ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:28 PM

That is just sad. WHY? Why would anyone want to recieve accolade for an image they didn't create? I will never understand why they do it. I am so sorry it happened Rhiannon. Ilona is right you are the one and only. Your style and talent go virtually unmatched, and only an idiot would dare to do what he has done.


jeweldragon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:32 PM

Don't you wish ALL thieves posted their stolen goods to a site that has comments? >;-> bonni YES i do ! LOL


bijouchat ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:33 PM

yeah, I am just amazed at the idiocy of someone reposting someone elses artwork and not thinking people are going to see it and roast him over a fire... the renders are really lovely and imaginative... its all so empty though when someone posts it and its not their own work. I'm not sure if I'd be even angry... I'd be laughing at them, posting what kind of loser they are for doing it. heck I would, but the site is sooo sloooow I can't get it to load lol


pdxjims ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:34 PM

The other work this scum has posted is a steal of Rhi's excellent "Elven Winter's Gold". Gosh, what an idiot! His pirated copy: http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=41216&genre=2 (if you can get Epilogue to load). Rhi's: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=247793&Start=91&Artist=Rhiannon&ByArtist=Yes


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:42 PM

how curiouse the page seems to of changed. but the work is still there and I still cant llloooooaaaaad the commmmmmment page

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atom1972 ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:46 PM

I was so angry I had to go post a comment too. BTW - beautiful images Rhiannon. Jane


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 9:57 PM

YAYAYAYAYAY I finally got another post in YAYAYAYYAYAY and ... epilogue has a few other renderosity artist in there..just if you tick them off dont even bother submiting your work cus you could submit the mona lisa and it would be denied. {actually I cant believe I am going to say this} they do have a few amazing galleries. but they are incredibly fond of "obviouse use of digital tools" as a reject line and that is for -digital- art that is submited. { trust me even if there is NO post work on it}

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bijouchat ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:03 PM

well, the site is so slow and so poorly organised, I think I won't be posting there anyway... lol. I prefer open sites such as this one, that allow everyone to post. Its more fair, and you learn more.


guslaw ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:13 PM

I agree DarkElegance, they do have some remarkable artwork in their galleries, BUT NOT ANY MORE SO THAN IN THE BRYCE, POSER, VUE, ETC galleries here in 'rosity. I too had left a comment at epilogue in support of Rhiannon earlier, before it got swamped by us Renderosity Poser/Bryce/Vue rabel... BTW - Very impressive gallery Rhiannon


JenX ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:18 PM

notice how the 'artist' 's replies stopped when the 'epilogue guest' posts started? Someone knows he/she's been caught.

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Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:21 PM

Oh, I agree as well ... they do have some incredibly talented artists there. I never really visited there much before the email I got about my work being posted there under someone else's name. I'd love to peruse the galleries all day long, but it is soooooo dang slow, I just give up. From what I understand, they do not sell ad space and rely on donations and volunteers to keep the site going, so that probably is a factor. I do not fault the site admins or owners ... it would be impossible to recognize someone else's work, especially an artist that is not that well known to them. But I am grateful that my work is well known enough that a member would recognize it and give me a heads up. That's pretty cool. :-) Love ya'll ... gotta' get that beauty sleep!!! Rhi


Rhiannon ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:23 PM

P.S. And one more great BIG THANKS to you all for your support ... it means so much to me!!! And if the admins do not remove my work AND this thief by tomorrow night, I may need your help to make some more noise!!


DarkElegance ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:23 PM

ohhhhh there is some jaw droping work in here. plain and simple. the thing is places like epilogue will snoot a nose up at it. they will allow the occasional work in but in general they wont. and I can promise you if you write and make anote of other work in there that has most deffinate post work etc etc etc then give it up right there. they wont allow any of your work in. they will say things as "obviouse use of digital tools "{how odd to have used digital tools on a digital piece } or the great one "not epilogue quality" even when you can prove that you didnt do anything other then hit the render button. it is frustrating but then places like renderosity exist and it is great. you can learn and get feed back and play with what you want in your gallery and share.

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Kinouk ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:24 PM

Put my two cents in!! Sorry sweety this has happened to you! We are behind you 100% hugz Joan


mathman ( ) posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:26 PM

Such a beautiful piece of work, its a shame that some low-life bastard had the nerve to try and steal it.


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