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So I have this 'thing' when I click on Renderosity... I click on galleries... I go to Bryce, then the C4D one. And I was browsing through the C4D gallery and I couldn't believe what I saw... Remember one of my threads about the challenge in which one of my ideas was to have a robot receive a flower from a girl behind a war-ravaged country? GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! I swear to God I almost cried! I hated the fact that someone else had thought of the same thing as me, and it was only my lack of talent that held me back. I don't know what to do now. If I do it, I'll be branded as a dirty rotten copyist. Well, not really, I mean I have a brain too, and Bryce CAN rise to C4D's challenge and kick some behinds... but it's still the matter of getting the idea, of holding it as your own, etc. :( Drac

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I'm sorry, I think I linked to the image wrong. here it is again: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=471922&Start=1&Artist=miketche&ByArtist=Yes

Don't worry too much about it, Drac. A while ago, I had this wonderful idea about a novel in which a couple of researchers found Beethoven's lost Tenth Symphony and got involved in a very tight situation with people who wanted to steal the manuscript. Brought that to the publisher, he approved it... and one month later some American writer published a novel very similar: Tenth Symphony, mysterious killings and so on. My novel outline went to the recycling bin __ but no one thought that I or the other author were plagiarizing each other. Sometimes we refer to a sort of Common Imagery that seems to be out there for all of us. Robert Anton Wilson made some great studies on "Morphic Resonance" (sorry, I don't know the exact English term, so I'm translating)... you're not alone, Drac! :) S.

Oh, that's too bad Drac, never mind you will go on to do bigger and better things and this will only be a sad memory. Catlin

Don't feel too bad. It happens a lot. I was listening to NPR coming to work the other day to a story about Alberto Santos-Dumont. He was the first person to fly a powered heavier-than-air craft. It seems the Wright Brothers used a catapult to launch. His aircraft, flown 3 years later, had enough torque to launch itself. Nicolaus August Otto, Gottlieb Daimler, Karl Benz, John W. Lambert, and the Duryea Brothers all invented automobile engines, motor driven cycles or vehicles within about 10 years of each other. It is very doubtful the had any detailed knowledge of each others plans or designs. There is a phrase , "An Idea who's time has come". This seems to literally be the case. Sometimes an idea will pop into everyone's head at once.

telepathy be damned :/

happened to me many a time..must find a way to be more creative..;) Was going to do the Escher stairs, someone beat me to it (actually may do it, my concept was different), forced me to do 'klimmen und dallern' (sp?) instead..;) someone's just done a mackie mixer (much better than I could, now that's a downer..;)
look at the bright side, you can always have a different take on it, alter something, change the focus, etc.,..just think how many images of Mother Mary are out there..;) Just let some time pass (around here, maybe 3 days..;) before you do your own..take care.

I just had a look at the image and what you had suggested to do was completely different. For 1 there is no child in that image and for another you had said something along the lines of the child giving the flower to the robot. So there you go, it has a similar idea but what you talked about was actually quite different. So stop moaning, your life is not over, and go get 'em..............8) Catlin

how absolutely cold of you, madam :P but no, the real thing behind my mental ordeal was the fact that the guy rendered the scene so much more beautifully than I could ever do. That's the clincher, girl or no girl, the fact that the guy's talent is stunning. that's what i'm whining about. Drac

Drac, I am at the moment holding a copy of "Fantasy Art Masters" by Dick Jude, published in 1999. On page 129 is a full color illustration created digitally by Fred Gambino used as the cover of an anthology called "Asimov's Valentines" published by Berkley in 1998. The image consists of a yellow robot, holding a rose in his right hand, a smoking barrel of a weapon serving as his left hand. Sound familiar? I doubt that the other fellow stole this idea from Gambino. Contrasting the soft organic flower with the hard metallic robot is probably an archetypically image among artists with a sci-fi bent. Anyone can do something similar, as long as the image doesn't DIRECTLY steal from another. We're all influenced by the same books and movies and music and artists. Saying only one image with a robot holding a flower can be done is like saying there can be only one image of a woman sitting in a chair. If you want to do the idea, go for it. Yours won't look anything like anyone else's, and I think you know it, too!

A good subject or idea is often duplicated that doesn't mean its stealing.

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As long as you add your own view to it.

But I know how you feel I wanted to just use this vase as a subject and only posted a quick render of it, but I was beaten to it. If I did it now it would some how feel like I was copying someone elses idea even though it was mine to begin with.

So you either do it and make it look like it was your idea and original or you find another subject.

Gosh I share that feeling many a times. Just when ya think you have an idea, you look around and see that someone's already done it. I think the pic has a very similar feel to this one: By Mrdodobird http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=374010&Start=37&Artist=Mrdodobird&ByArtist=Yes I think you should still make it though. It's a brilliant idea, almost like Monsters Inc. meets the Iron Giant! Sorry, I watch a lot of kiddie animations. 8D

c'mon now drac... dont feel bad... yes that guys rnder was indeed good (not to mention lighting fast too, man you guys should try C4D its sao amazingly fast! will post a comparative study on that.) but drac you could do it! yup, you have WINGS MAN! wait a minute... he has c4d right? well.... uhm... forget it! you cant beat the guy... or even compare to him (eyecon holds back and hopes that his reverse pyschology would work on dac and inspire him to do the image) eyecon

lol@Eyecon........................8D

Take a break, do a different type of picture and come back later and do your version of the picture. I have seen folks whose artwork is way better than mine but you know what? I don't care. Not going to throw out my software, delete my pictures and give up doing 3d. Don't care that my stuff looks like dog spit compared to hobbit or Gevidal or David Ho or other 3d luminaries. Don't even care that it does not measure up to Mark Ryden, Skot Olsen or even Shag's stuff either. If you love doing 3d, then you should not care about how good everyone else is. In almost everything, there are people that are better, worse and on the same level. Further up you go, you are still looking at someone's back either living or dead.

Great point SevenOfEleven. I feel that way too.

In paleontology you see this a lot, where two unrelated species will develop the same form (convergance)- the idea of form following function. Today wee are influenced by television, radio, newspapers, magazines books and, ah yes, other people's art - even the telephone was two hours away from being patented by a guy named Gray. So if you set up a scene in Bryce then later see a similar scene somewhere else perhaps it's just an idea who's time has come combined with the law of averages - bound to happen ... So if you didn't set out to copy anyone, post it anyway.

hey drac just to let you know.... i recently submitted an artwork for the cover contest, and if you noticed another guy was doing an artwork that had a very close resemblance to mine... we did not copy each other since he doesnt have a gallery so he doesnt post and i dont know him... it just coincdence man... nothing to it... just to let you know, he actually got accepted and mine was down it the dumps... no hard feelings... at least i did my best ayt? you too man... do your best and dont care if his or theirs or anybody else's is better, at least you did what you could.