Oh yeah, I like these. M3's face does have a tendency to only be pretty boy faces but after working with it for awhile, maybe he can be made to look more like a man than a boy.

Again, this is my kinda guy. 8-) As far as adding "manliness" (or should I say, making him less pretty) ... I think what helps is to put a little bit of the "old" facial morph in there, to get some facial creases and ruggedness; also tweak the ethnic morphs to the plus or minus in small increments. You'll start getting some very interesting, and more "manly" characters. So what if there is .105 of Frankenstein or Alien or gorilla in there ... experiment with things you would never even THINK of! You might like the results. 8-)

HdAfrican2 .034
HdAfrican3 .209
HdNtvAmer .589
HdIndian .038
HdYoung .086
HdOld .203
HdAlien .099
FaceLong .163
BrowAngleUp 1.643
BrowHeavy .282
EyesBig .105
EyeWrinkleR .864
EyeWrinkleL .864
NoseHeight -.159
NostrilWidth .261
CheekBones .325
CheekSink .182
LipStylized .098
LipsThin .096
LipUpFull -.065
MouthNarrow .762
MouthRaise -.321
JawFull .451
ChinCleft .254
BrowFrownR .610
BrowFrownL .610
Smile1 -.121
Frown Left .260
Frown Right .260
LipsPucker .107

(Note that some of those are negatives)

That looks really good. I can't help but have a problem with the eyes, too, though. I don't know what it is, they just don't look like "man" eyes....and, I'm not too crazy about his shoulders either. I haven't bought him and don't know if I will. But then again, I haven't bought V3 either - something about the morph injection stuff kind of intimidates me, and it took me long enough just to learn Poser in general :-) I do appreciate that everyone is posting examples of what can be done to him with the morphs, though.

gonna have to agree with you, his eyes and nose too are hard to make manly, good news from drax they are working on that though

nice one, he looks mad and mean, and for some of the pics in my head that's a good thing

That's a little better with the lines and slight crow's feet, gives him more character and looks more realistic. Maybe that is part of the problem, the eye area is too impossibly smooth without some morphs or line textures.

Maybe it's the reverse of the "drag ages a man and makes a woman look younger" thing - because he looks younger than M1/2 (and because people know he shares mesh with V3) they are seeing hime as "feminine"?

Tammy those are great faces too

Thank you, I was just playing a bit to see how versatile he really was. I lost the one on the right before I could save it or write the settings down because I tried to delete the hair and poser froze up on me for some reason. I think I can recreate him though I basically remember what I used. Next time Ill write the settings down like deecey did and post them.

Yikes, those shoulders look kind of ridiculous. I hope you can dial those down a bit (or a lot).