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Subject: Alternate Prop geometries?


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Fri, 10 October 2003 at 2:42 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 4:42 AM

I'm currently creating a prop of which parts should be able to be exchanged for other parts. For instance, this prop is a stand and I'd like the "feet" to be changed to different types. Don't want morphing, just alternate geometries for this and other parts of the model. Should it just be separate parts (geometries) that can be loaded separately? Or should it be a figure (CR2) with alternate geometries listed? Caveat is that the alternate parts will not have the same number of vertices/polygons and will have different texture maps. There are no "moving parts" - bone/joint requirements. Just want to be able to swap parts to allow variety without creating a new full model for each one (which stands at 24 varieties so far by intermixing parts). Thanks, Kuroyume0161

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

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maclean ( ) posted Fri, 10 October 2003 at 5:04 PM

Attached Link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PoserTECH

kuroyume, To see alternate geom in action, I suggest you get Jeff Howarth's 'dial-a-prop' from Poser Tech. He's pretty expert in the whole thing. Although he did warn me that it's not 100% reliable. I think he also has a tute on it there. I'm sorry I can't give you detailed info. It's all on my other computer which has currently gone ga-ga (I'm now re-installing the system). Argh!! mac


geoegress ( ) posted Fri, 10 October 2003 at 5:20 PM

you can also make smart props to load one or the other


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Fri, 10 October 2003 at 5:21 PM

Thanks for the suggestion and link, maclean! :) Will check this "dial-a-prop" idea out.

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

Contact Me | Kuroyume's DevelopmentZone


lesbentley ( ) posted Sat, 11 October 2003 at 10:58 AM

I'm using Poser 4, and I never could get alternateGeom to work for props including the dial-a-prop. I'd sugest using a figure. The classic example of using alternateGeom is the hands in the "Skeleton Woman.cr2", the relevent parts in the hands are the alternateGeom statments, and the channel for the dial to swap the geometry "geomChan handGeom". It does not matter if the obj files have differing numbers of vertices.


maclean ( ) posted Sat, 11 October 2003 at 11:13 AM

Right, les. As I said, Jeff told me it was a bit iffy, and my own experiments (with props) confirmed that. Figures are pretty much tried and true and definitely preferable to props. mac


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Sat, 11 October 2003 at 12:54 PM

Can you specify more than one alternate geometry per part? Sorry about my lack of knowledge here, the only alternate geometry that I've see much of is the hip for Michael. Will have to examine the info on it in "Secrets of Figure Creation" and from whatever tutorials can be found. :)

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

Contact Me | Kuroyume's DevelopmentZone


lesbentley ( ) posted Sat, 11 October 2003 at 5:15 PM

I don't think there is any limit on the number of alternate geometrys, the Skeleton Woman has 19 in each hand. The geometry swaping can be implimented via a dial in the actor to be affected (or in an actor lower in the parenting hierachie). You should have a look in the hands of the Skeleton Woman.cr2 (it comes with Poser) to see how it is implimented.


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Sat, 11 October 2003 at 7:01 PM

I'll do that and use it as an example.

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

Contact Me | Kuroyume's DevelopmentZone


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Sat, 11 October 2003 at 10:38 PM

After rereading the section on "Geometry Swapping" in "Secrets of Figure Creation" and looking over the Skeleton Woman.CR2, I think that it makes sense now. :) Here's another question: For this product, it is very possible that there will be more "selections" in the future. Will this require a new CR2 (as well as the alternate geometry files) to include every new set (with the previous ones)? I'll take it that "morph injection" is the only alternative and will avoid that for awhile.

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

Contact Me | Kuroyume's DevelopmentZone


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