I have created a few Items in in MAYA for use in P5 cloth room with Victoria 3. They all seem to work o.k.. I was just wondering what the difference between " Optimized cloth for Poser" and any other one sided Mesh? I will try to make these Items available in The Poser Free Stuff once I get a few things working better and find somebody to texture the models for me. Thanks in advance Jeremy (hitnrun)

By the way these are my first attempt at making anything for poser at all

AFAIK the polycount for the cloth plane is way higher than the ordinary one sided square, so that it folds smoother.

Generally this will mean that the polygon count is high enough to allow a good "flow" to the cloth but not so high that it will take an eternity to calculate the simulation. The polygons should be square, avoid long thin rectangles. Also none of the mesh should intersect the figure when at the zero pose.

Thanks for the Replies and I will look and my messes and make sure those polys are square.

Hi there, A good place to start is at: http://poserfashion.net/tutorials.htm There are some good tutorials and guidance there.

Does cloth always have to be one-sided? I'm trying to make a towel that drapes around someone's neck, but doesn't look right because the "back" renders black. Anyway around this?

Randym77 could you post a screenshot of this problem, somebody may be able to help.

Here it is. I was trying to reproduce a scene from a play, where the actor had a white towel draped around his neck. I used the clothplane, and as you can see, the front came out white, as planned, but the back rendered black. In places, the back actually showed through the front, producing a spotty effect. I tried putting in a little displacement; it didn't help.

Is the high-res square the right primitive to use?

You may need to export that High-res square as an obj file then UV map both sides of it. Then import the mapped OBJ file back into poser. This may fix your problem.

I think what is happening is that it is folded too much, so that the back of some of the polygons are folded thru the front, making degenerate facets. Yes, UVMapper could possibly solve it. Try exporting the towel as an obj, once you've made it in the cloth room. It will of course now be a static prop but you might be able to fix the degenerate facets in UVMapper then. I can't remember the shortcut for fixing degenerate facets in the free uvmapper, but it's probably in the menu somewhere too :o)

I tried exporting it to UVMapper, but it didn't help. I guess you're just not supposed to fold cloth that much. I'm too warped for Poser! ;-)