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Subject: PROP = ? MESH = ?


thcseller ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 9:50 AM · edited Sun, 13 October 2024 at 6:58 PM

Ok i know this may sound a little "newb" but what the heck is a prop and a mesh???? been having fun with bryce for about a month but still cant figure out what that is. Thanx in advance ;OP


pakled ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 10:17 AM

they're often interchangeable. A mesh is a model, often with an extension of .obj, .3ds, .dxf, etc. A prop is often much the same thing. Props are also .pp2, etc extension files, that are used in a program called Poser.
If you go the the Freestuff area here, and search under Bryce, you'll find a lot of props and meshes available. Once unzipped, you usually can File|Import Object into a Bryce scene, and texture it with the 'm' button. Or stretch, or resize, or reorient (some formats come in facing straight up, usually a -90 setting on the 'X' orientation will take care of that. Once you're comfortable with objects, props, and meshes, you can even make your own with Wings 3d,Anim8tor (free), or even a spendy program. Try this out, and have fun.

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thcseller ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 10:28 AM

AH!!! ok so i had alrdy done some myself just didnt know the name of it :OP thanx for the explanation :OP see ya


Aldaron ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 1:09 PM

The reason it's called a mesh is look at the wireframe of the model, it looks like a wire mesh like a fence, etc.


Zhann ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 4:35 PM

Anybody know how to retrieve a model from the .pp2 file?

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Aldaron ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 5:45 PM

Isn't that a Poser file? Load it in Poser then export the model.


mikeberg ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 6:43 PM

I have over 3000 files in obj format that were originaly in Poser PP2 or CR2 format. I boutht a magazine a couple of years ago with Poser 3 free inside. With Poser, I load the pp2 file (or rename a CR2 to PP2 if there is only a CR2)and export the file in OBJ format (usely with all the textures that are in the zip file). I can now import all these files in Bryce without any problem. I think you'll find Poser 3 on some Internet sites. All you have to do after getting it is to download the thousands of files that are free here at Renderosity, 3D Communes, Runtime DNA and others. Good luck


Slakker ( ) posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 7:09 PM

It really shouldn't be called a mesh, it's misleading. Especially for those of us with outside-bryce modeling experience, and ESPECIALLY for those of us with 3D Game design experience. Back where i come from, the Half-Life 3rd part developing communities, a mesh is a 2d image of the wireframe (every single part that requires a seperate, or even slightly different texture mapping) on a black background, creating the guides and outlines for texturing.


Zhann ( ) posted Thu, 20 November 2003 at 1:23 AM

Ok, I'm not a wiz at Poser, although I have tons of Poser stuff, on the off chance someday I may be. But detailed instructions on importing/loading a pp2 or cr2 into Poser would be greatly appreciated....

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pakled ( ) posted Thu, 20 November 2003 at 10:25 AM

You can get Poser 3 from back issues of 3D World, Digit, Computer Art, etc., for about the cost of an issue ($13-15 in my neck of the woods). You can get Poser 5 for only 20 times this price..;) Poser 4 has taken a pasadena, and is now Poser Artist, but I've heard that the Propack stuff isn't included, wonder if the Propack for 4 works on Poser artist..anyone know?

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Zhann ( ) posted Thu, 20 November 2003 at 5:29 PM

I have Poser 4 and ProPack, you say P4 is now Poser Artist, how weird is that...

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electroglyph ( ) posted Fri, 21 November 2003 at 5:03 PM

Attached Link: http://www.buckrogers.demon.co.uk/3d/rsr2obj.zip

There is a utility by anthony appleyard to change poser rsr files to objects. This link downloads it. Poser calls anything that has bones a character. Anything that doesn't have joints and bones is a prop. Both are made of points with a texture strung over them and are called meshes.


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