C1rcle; Heh. I figure it'll be my turn when Mover 5 comes out, and I trip over all the things that others have figured out and forgot about in the hair room.... But that articulation is -so- nice to have...particularly if you're doing a dance pose, and have an experienced dancer for a friend who will give you chapter and verse on just where and how things will be bent, angled, twisted, and otherwise turned into silly putty at that particular instant in the step...

hey riddokun, Sara doesn't take V2 maps nor V3 clothes as someone in the Daz forums suggested... better give it a try with the Tailor... and DOAeyes on Sara??? heh heh heh, WIP! WIP! I already fitted the DOAeyes on Aiko (the anime character for stephanie) and works GREAT! seriously man, you should probably go places if you sold the doaeyes, but then again, its philantropic value as a freebie only makes you a better person inside (heh heh, some flattering just to make sure you keep it for free).

Modeller base is mainly male. Tex Creator base is mainly female. This seems to be the general rule. Of course, I kind of like being one of the only exceptions to that rule :) I can think of only about 5 male texture creators (skin and clothes) off the top of my head yet can rattle off about 20 female names in a split second. It's really strange how it's weighted.

It's actually not all that strange if you think about it. The boys are more concerned with the shape of things, and tactile (in a sense) stuff than the girls are. Modelling isn't easy (for me at least) and my brain just doesn't want to deal with all the wires. But the guys don't seem to have that problem. Or maybe they just have a lot more patience with it. The girls usually have a better sense of color and shading, or maybe they are just more inclined to apply that, so I'm really not surprised about the texture creation side being female dominated. I'm still not sure about the user base, but something tells me that there is more female than male in Poser, but more male than female in - for example - Vue. (I'm tellin ya, it's the wires! :P) Anyway, that's my take on it :) And FWIW - both the modellers and the texture / pose creators are doing a damn fine job no matter which gender they are :) Silke

i really wouldn't dare to sell things like that... no match with the quality standards of the marketplace, especially given the fact i have roughly less than 6 months of experience :) As long as i am not satisfied with my skills, have things to learn and the opportunity of not speinding any money to maintain a website, i intend to keep focused on freebies, that's all it worth ! (never tried aiko though, could you show me/send me renders of it ? i heard she was one of the least bad attempt of an anime character in the early days) by the way i do not want to rise a debate/argument about comparing women and men.. for me we are equal in results and potential but nature made us not using same methods to achieve same goals. so far what i have read in scientific magazines was that the brain pattern of women was more using both emisphere, both emitionnal and mechanical ones, and by this, they are more prone to artistic sensitivity, i bet it is important for texture making, shading, drawing. Men are a bit more hearthly/binary thinking, with either their emotionnal or mechanical part. As such, they had been seen to have more affinities with geometry and spatial appliations of it, as for modelling in 3d. By the way it is good we are not all the sames... there are differences, that do not make one superior to the other, just rather complementary. What is a good mesh without texture ? what is a nice texture that cannot fit any mesh ? for sara, yes i discovered in pain she could not at all use the v3 stuff after all, despite what was suggested (maybe a uv remapping, but it would be a tedious work)

I'm just a big tomboy at heart, and that's why I like to model LMAO And you both have really good points and I totally agree. The way we are 'wired' is what makes us want to do particular things. I know for myself I've always been more inclined to do 'manly' things, like build furniture and tinker with mechanical stuff. And I never owned dolls as a child :) Perhaps I'm just playing dress ups on my dolls now snicker I'm left handed too so perhaps that has something to do with it? Any other female modellers out there who are left handed?

ok, on Riddokun's request... here's Sara, Aiko and Kaedeko... all of them sporting his DOAeyes I did the body and head textures on Sara myself.... what, does that make affeminate?? :P I did not have time to make clothes fir her, though.... it's just something quick I put together.

hey, paying closer attention to Dr. geep's picture, it does seem that sara has a problem with her eyes... I thought it was me when I put the doeayes on them, but when you turn the dials to make her look up/down, left/right, the direction is just not right, it looks like one of her eyes is misplaced... in my pic, Sara's looking at the camera, so it looks fine, but try making her look sideways (specially) and you'll see the problem... still it might be just me...

Xena: Trekkiegrrl is left handed (see a long thread in the Commons at DAZ)

Hmmm, perhaps there's something to it! Better go check out that thread ... thanks :D

Heheeh I wasn't going to start a debate on male and female brain patterns :) I was just wondering - in light of the "Just what we needed" - if there is maybe something to it, and if that would explain the "more female figures than male". Men and Women are different. That's a fact. We think different, we act different, we're good at different things. That's not to say that a woman can't do what a man can do any less good than said man, or the other way around. There are way too many examples that would prove anyone wrong who made such an observation. My only thought was that maybe something that appeals to mens artistic talent doesn't appeal as much to womens artistic talent, and that's why we have this slant in models. I honestly don't mind all the female models. Far from it. As a "Poser" I appreciate both the aesthetics of the male, and the female body. Even though a lot of my friends are wondering if secretly I swing the other way because I render so many girls lol. (I don't, but even if I did, that's still not a bad thing.) There are models I like more than others. I'm not one for the Anime type figures, but that's just me. Yes, they are cute and I don't mind seeing anime renders, but personally I hardly ever render any. It's just me, wondering, that's all. :) I do occasionally wonder about some mighty strange things, but this one struck me as kind of interesting :) And to quote a friend of mine after I sent him a link to a render I did to err.... cheer him up.... "Is it wrong to fall in love with pixels?" LOL Silke

Men and Women are different. That's a fact. Yes but it's a statistic different. Its telling nothing about specifics individuals.

I guess I'm kind of old fashioned in that I agree with men and women being different and are most comfortable in particular roles. And of course there are always going to be exceptions to the rule (hey I'm one LOL) Men are 'generally' stronger and more mechanically minded than women. Women tend to rely more on emotional responses whereas men are more clinical. Women are 'generally' more nurturing than men - which I honestly think is due to that fact that we have a womb and men don't. Our brains just operate differently. Live with someone of the opposite sex for 12 months then tell me we aren't different LOL These are just things that are. They don't account for every individual, but the 'general' way of things. And while we are noticing differences ... guys, what's with the dropping of clothing on the floor? Hello, does testosterone make you blind to the fact that there IS a laundry basket??? ***says she who has 3 sons who obviously never put their clothing where it's supposed to go rolls eyes ***