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Subject: Tut: Creating complex lighting through latering Poser renders in Photohop


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 8:27 AM · edited Sat, 25 January 2025 at 2:07 AM

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Hi there, I do this one once a year. It is a great technique for building detail in a scene. The basic idea is simple: Render the same scene with different lighting and then layer them on top of each other in Photohop at various opacities. This example was done just that way but you can get facy by using layer options, the eraser on certain areas etc. If your bored or looking ofr a new look to your renders it is worth experimenting with. -Anton

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 8:29 AM

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This image of STephanie 1.0 was done this way using the eraser tool. Used about 6 renders I think.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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geep ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 8:47 AM

Anton, That is a neat technique ... thank you for sharing it. cheers, dr geep ;=] Dang! ... I wish I could do my tuts in only 2 pics. ;=]

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 8:57 AM

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Hehe Thanks Geep. Same thing can be done with head renders. You can blend and create new looks using various morphs and maps. In this example I used the eraser to blend areas and preserve lines. More can be done if you with with cloning but I didn't do that here. -Anton

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 9:19 AM

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Here is another one I have mentioned before. This one is great for making the eyes more soft and real. Basically: 1)make a copy above your original. 2)erase the eyeballs 3)Add drop shadow with blur

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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narsil ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 9:19 AM

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Mmm seems a bit complex. See image - took err lets see - 2 mins used displacement mapping and ray tracing used crystal ball node on the glass though face is ok as an exercise - not sure if would want to fiddle with photoshop so much - thats for more interesting stuff ( alpha working and channel working) Have you tried using channel layers to do the same with either transparency or shine being applied with the alpha channel - using that at the moment for a job I'm doing


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 9:25 AM

This past October, I attended one of Lee Stranaham's Lightwave classes, and he showed us this same technique. I thought it was the slickest thing! How many times after you finish a render do you think "Dang, I wish I had made that back light a little bit stronger." Well, this technique allows you to do that. I think Anton follows a similar procedure as Lee ... set up a basic 3-point light set (Key, Fill, and Background) and render one image for each of the 3 lights. In the class, he suggested that you start in Photoshop with a solid black layer, and then layer each of the lighting renders on top of it. He also used screen mode to adjust the strength of each layer, though I think Opacity works similarly. Slick stuff Anton! Glad you brought it up. 8-)



DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 9:26 AM

typo - Stranaham should be Stranahan (sorry!)



PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 9:28 AM

I don't generally use alpha channels but you can do fun stuff with them for sure. Umm that's a big image there. :) Just an fyi. if you keep your image at 800 pixels wide or less, or crop it, it will prevent most people's browsers from resizing to need the horizontal scroll bar within Renderosity threads.

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"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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catlin_mc ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 9:47 AM

That's a real neat trick on the eye's Anton, thanks for sharing. 8)


jade_nyc ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:08 AM

neat stuff Anton! Thanks for sharing!


SnowSultan ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:09 AM

I combine multiple renders all the time (see my 'snowcloning' tutorial here and at DAZ, heh), but I've never really tried combining differently-lit scenes before. Getting the shadows right might be a handful, but I'll definitely have to try that out. Thanks a lot. ;) SnowS

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Firebirdz ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:10 AM

I've done this a couple of times with neat results. Do you have a guide as to what lighting to choose for the various renders ? I noticed from the first image that one light is from top, and the other two from left and right basically. I like to use this technique and change some of the layers to 'overlay' / 'multiply' or 'screen'


PabloS ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:11 AM

Great info Anton. I recently started messing around with similar techniques.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:32 AM

You can use any lighting you want really. I just picked three different light sets at random. Rally just mix your favorite ones you have. It really is a simple process.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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DarkElegance ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:48 AM

ohhh thanks!! also for the same pic...you can duplicate the layers make one softlight play with the opacity make another duplicate and make it......blue. not with a lot of saturation. put that {the blue layer between the normal and the soft light} and again play with the opacity, you can get some really nice effects with skin tone and depth that way. I cant wait to try your tut Anton!

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stewer ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 11:29 AM

Just wanted to add two links on that subject: http://www.3drender.com/light/compositing/index.html http://www.3drender.com/jbirn/ea/Ant.html


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 11:34 AM

Oooh, great links! Thanks stewer! 8-)



xoconostle ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 12:16 PM

Yep, been doin' that for awhile. Very, very effective. Sometimes you'll spend lots of time setting up complex lighting for a scene. At render time, you see that the shadows are just too strong in some areas, but that the brightness and positioning of the lighting is correct. Simple solution: Keep your render with the too-strong shadows, then do another with no shadows at all. Layer and adjust opacity to taste in Photoshop. Or, as Anton suggested, simply erase to the correct degree in the too-dark areas. I find this much quicker than going back and changing the shadows on multiple lights. If you've got less than 8 lights in a scene, fine. Fine-tune them by hand. Dean


Smitthms ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 12:27 PM

Anton, your above tips are greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch :o) Thomas


Jay7347 ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 12:29 PM

Anton, just wanted to say a big thanks for the tips...Knowledge, is the greatest gift one can offer another. -jay


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 4:29 PM

NP. Always glad to share.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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Dave ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 6:34 PM

thanks


DgerzeeBoy ( ) posted Sat, 03 January 2004 at 10:46 PM

Great, great, great, tip, A. Thanks...


byAnton ( ) posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 9:37 AM

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