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Subject: The Beginning of Anton's Maximus 1.0


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PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 9:43 PM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 6:59 PM

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Hi there, It really is too early to be showing these, but I have been getting email asking questions about my figure. Maximus 1.0 will be a male figure(obviously) based on my own designs. I am taking my time and things are going quite well. As you can see is is still being built(no lashes, brows, uv's etc) but even with just material colors he is looking pretty good so far. He is artistic dimentions and has alot of new features very different than the current norn. Not everyone likes change but I need some myself. I will try to keep people posted as he shapes up. This is obviously just the base so far and of course there will me more morphs than you can imagine, most unlike any seen before. Tweaking joints and making changes everyday till I am happy with it. Having alot of fun though. SHould have done this ages ago. Anyway..blah blah blah. Just wanted to FYI so people don't think I am sitting on my butt collecting dust. Regards, Anton PS: If you have specific pics of faces or bodies you want me to consider please email them to me at antonkisiel@comcast.net Don't post them here. I will only consider those emailed. Porn doesn't offend me. Just so long as it is a detailed image.

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 9:46 PM

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I will have developers files and tools included for those who like to make clothes, freebies, etc. Don't worry. I'll make it as painless as possible. Off to go back to work. Arm is better today so I am getting stuff done. -Anton PS: DOn't forget he will have lashes, brows, morphs and such later. Just thought you might like a peek.:)

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Xena ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 9:52 PM

I for one LIKE change ... it's as good as a holiday ;) Lovely work Anton.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 9:56 PM

Thanks Xena. Gawd I really need to pay attention to the keyboard when I type. shakes head. Hope most of that makes sense up there. :)

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PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:01 PM

I personally think he is looking great. I like the eye-brown-nose region a lot better than M3. Maximus 1.0 will have more polygons than Michael, but not so much that your RAM keels over. This is not a unimesh figure. I don't think he will have injection morphs, but I could be mistaken. Anton will have to clarify on that. The reason for the photos is to see what users are expecting in terms of versatility. Whether you want someone with a chiseled look like Bruce Willis or a more rounded face. I think Maximus is off to a really great start and Anton really deserves a lot of kudos for all his great work :) PapaBlueMarlin



Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:01 PM

Looking pretty good Anton



Xena ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:04 PM

snicker We are all WAY used to your typing skills now :D


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:04 PM

Anton, could you post a side to side comparison image of Maximus's body to the V3 male and Michael 1/2 (I know you don't have M3). Also another comparison image of the heads would be helpful :) PBM



Niles ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:06 PM

Nice young face, Scaled and morphed to 85% he would make a nice 15 to 18 y/o figure. I would add him to ever growing list of Models. Keep us updated.


Carcinogen ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:07 PM

Anton, he is looking fantastic! Maximus is very realistic already, even without detailed textures. VERY realistic face and perfect job on proportions. The clavicular/shoulder/deltoid areas are especially the best I have seen on any figure to date. And the head is more realistically proportioned to the body. I am not dissin' the characters out there, but this has some great pluses. BTW, I was sorry to hear about your accident (glad you are doing better). Tim


judith ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:09 PM

Anton, he looks great. Quick question, are you planning on using the morph injection standards DAZ uses or cr2's containing the morph information? (Is he even going to be for Poser?) From an untrained eye, he appears to be very adaptable to body sculpting. Love the hands!

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:15 PM

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PapaBlueMartin, He is more than M2. He is arounf 40,000 Polygons. Depending on the Cr2 size at the end I might not do INj. I really would rather not since the figure isn't 80K. I'll have to wait and see. Still refining him. I swore to myself I wouldn't open any other figure files and compare them to him. When I made my head lengths I did load in M2 to check heigh and such but that was all. He looks kinda odd with just material colors and no lashes and brows but here is a current head shot.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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Firebirdz ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:17 PM

looks great!


PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:32 PM

Judith, One more thing about injection: I was wanting to keep all the main stuff on the figure. More obscure morphs could be injectable so they are not clutter. What do you think? Oh yes he is for Poser and poses even better in Studio. PS: The smoothness of his current state is on purpose. That way when you morph him you aren't stuck with details you don't like or want, frantically looking for a dial to get rid of it. I plan on him being complete package. Eveything you need will be included. No gimmicks. Still shaping and tweaking. Every day he is alittle different. :) Thanks for the kind words.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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RealitysPoison ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 10:40 PM

Looking GREAT! Anton. And I'm with Xena, change is good. :D Might have to send you a pic, If I can ever get the man to stand till to take one. lol


xoconostle ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 11:07 PM

Are you accepting advance payments? LOL ... lookin' good! Thank you for the sneak previews.


nikitacreed ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 11:22 PM

He is definitely looking great Anton! I am all for change...the more change the better. This looks like a great male figure you have coming along. I particularly like his body frame...it reminds me of my husband. I can't wait to see him finished. Very cool.


Fashionably_Late ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2004 at 11:55 PM

Looks like an excellent new addition to Poser libraries everywhere! I especially like the "neutral" appearance and body type, it'll definitely make the morphing an easier process. Great work so far, I'm looking forward to seeing the progress with Maximus. :)


judith ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:46 AM

"Judith, One more thing about injection: I was wanting to keep all the main stuff on the figure. More obscure morphs could be injectable so they are not clutter. What do you think? Oh yes he is for Poser and poses even better in Studio. Anton, I personally don't care for the injection, but I understand it's easily worked around by injecting what the user wants and saving back the cr2. That being said it's the injection that prevents me from using M3 to any great degree, I really like the generation 2 Milpeople better than 3 in looks and in useability. It just seems to be a big production to get the figure to look the way you want them to But that's just one person's opinion. If he's supported well and not at a huge price, I can live with it. In all honesty, as much as I don't care for M3, I do like the FREAK and Steph. Perhaps because they are sufficiently different? Bottom line, it's not going to be cheap to fully stock a wardrobe for a model unless we all become adept at joint parameters and The Tailor, I guess... but I imagine we'll have to get used to it. It's got to be a nightmare for clothing developer's though to decide which figure to create for in terms of being financially worth the time investment I think that you're definitely going about it the right way, and I look forward to more previews! There's room for another figure, especially if it's well done.

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hauksdottir ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:50 AM

I prefer a rougher, more chiseled look (I like bones, and the men I draw tend to be warriors, vikings, and such weathered folk rather than city-dwellers). Favorite actors include Viggo Mortenson, James Coburn, Clint Eastwood... but mostly because when they laugh or even smile it goes all the way across their face and everything is open and sincere. One thing lacking in the current figures is the ability to get a real full-face smile. Yul Brynner and Patrick Stewart both have good bones despite being more solid, and Sean Connery has aged incredibly well. Your shoulders and neck are much better than the Michael figures (I really don't like what the unimesh does to the armpits, either) and the overall proportions are good. Can we see a flat on hand shot? The softer face will allow for easier morph-making. Assymmetry? Carolly


judith ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 1:04 AM

"I prefer a rougher, more chiseled look (I like bones, and the men I draw tend to be warriors, vikings, and such weathered folk rather than city-dwellers). ........One thing lacking in the current figures is the ability to get a real full-face smile." :: my addition:: without having it look ridiculous or plastic. I agree with you Carolly! Perhaps because I also like a more chiseled face.

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Nightwind ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 1:12 AM

I like the look of Maximus. There is definitely a need for a more youthful type of guy, which this one seems to be. As far as what you model, well you make, I'll buy it.:) The models you make are the easiest to work with and the most well behaved in my library. One question I do have is....Is it possible to make the hands scaleable so the slender guy doesn't look so ham handed? Some men have elegant hands too.:) Glad you're feeling better and never thought you were into dust collecting.:)


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 1:13 AM

I also agree with Carolly about the chiseled face. Not quite as weathered at the ones you mentioned but perhaps Bruce Willis, Richard Burgi, Mickey Rourke (from the 1980s) Christopher Meloni to name a few. These guys don't have the cheekbones per se, but I tend to focus more on the brow, eyes, and nose.



sandoppe ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:26 AM

I definitely like what your thinking in post 14....about the morphs....and "no gimmicks" ;) That makes a lot of sense to me. The injection morphs can be handy, but having to inject virtually everything is a real pain and for some reason P5 has a nasty habit of "multiplying" morphs on some figures. Most of the morphs on M3 are useless to me. I sort of like how Sixus1 uses morphs in their new Minotaur2 figure. You might want to check with Les on how they do theirs since I don't know squat about modeling :) Just know it's not as cumbersome as the DAZ approach. I also agree with what Nikita Creed states in post #17.....not about her husband, obviously :) , but about Maximus body frame. It was the first thing I noticed. He's shaped like a real guy :) I second everything Judith said in post 19. Not a big fan of the injection stuff either. Haven't worked much with Stephanie Petite, but love the Freak :) The clothing is an issue. Fortunately, we always have Steve at Poser World and PhilC who manage to provide us with some excellent basics for just about every charcter that's come along! I suspect they will support yours as well :) Carolly is "right on!!" about that "smile"! You cannot get decent full smile without have a "duffy looking" character.....chisled and weathered faces....absolutely!! I think he looks great Anton.....look forward to seeing him progress......and I buy like a woman possessed, so I suspect he will someday reside on my harddrive :)


Simderella ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 5:22 AM

I rarely use male characters... But i must say. so far he looks more natural, like a bloke you would see walking down the road, I can imagine him with textures and I think he will turn out to be a much more 'human' looking male than M2/M3 Great work!! I look forward to seeing the progress. -SimderZ- xXx

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movida ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 7:55 AM

I like the rougher more chiseled face also. The rounder faces (to me anyway so it's just my .02) seem to imply indeciciveness (sp???). But actually I'd choose Antonio Banderas s


Mazak ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 8:10 AM

Looks excellent! (With Cath texture at last it would be a big hit!) Mazak

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AprilYSH ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 8:27 AM

the clavicle (collarbones?) look a bit sharp but his torso looks nice :) can't wait to see what new technology you'll bring us :D

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Caly ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 8:41 AM

He's got a sweet, young face. Reminds me of the actor that plays Lex on Smallville. :)

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DigitalVixxen ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 9:52 AM

Ah! Finally a new man to look forward too. Excellent!


lalverson ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 10:32 AM

I like this dudes look and build. Bravo sir for taking this on! Poser needs full up male figures and a wide range of builds in order to get more from the application. I tend to think if there were a wider choice of males then using males would become more useful. I do alot of illustration of stories. and the hardest bit is attempting to get all the male characters assembled and selected. True with M1/2/3 and V3-M there is some varaity however too many of them load poser down badly and the fear of crosstalk showing up is a real thing. It would be nice to have a detail male figure that doesn't further bloat my pose folder. Any more of thoiase I fear and all I'll have is INJ/REM folders and no room for mats But good on you Anton, keep going!!


PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 11:37 AM

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In all likelyhood, Maximus won't get much younger looking than he does right now. I will add some morphs for those who want younger and slender, but as I said this is really a "blank" face and body. His head still needs tweaking but he will definately have gueeged, salt of the earth potential. :) I am glad to read what you all wrote about injection. Meaqns that my instict was correct. Likely then, only the more obscure and specific morphs will be injected if at all. From my understanding Daz Studio doesn't loads morphs into memory unless the value is set to anything other than zero, so this may be a non-issue. His hands are not final yet. He is still in "clay" mode. But here is what they look like today. They are still being refined. ALot of people have skinned the mil figure hands cipying thier hand pose. I built these myself from scratch. Again these aren't final. Just where he is today. EMail me face or body pics if you want me to consider something. antonkisiel@comcast.net

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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a_super_hero ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 11:42 AM

Where have you been selling your stuff and where will Maximus be available?


MachineClaw ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 11:46 AM

The name is killing me hahahaha. Nice looking model you have going. Are your going to do a Trojan suit for him hahahahaha. Sorry, I'm dieing here. Too funny. He looks really smooth :)


PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 11:49 AM

Becore Daz hired me to make the content for the Platinum CLub and CLothes for V3, they bought all my brokered items, though getting my name restored to the products hasn't been successful. Other brokers who sold them stuff get theor names listed but I guess I am different. Right now I am not sure where I am selling him. After releasing me from my contract over an arguement before the holidays with no notice, I am not sure I feel comfortable giving them 50% of everything. Also their store is being revampled again. I don't want Maximus sadwiched between the gremlin and the toon santa. It would be embarassing. I am waiting to see what happens while I finish him. Part of the reason I am in no rush. I have thought about the idea of selling him everywhere that wants to sell him like software, but percentage is a priority. Too many months work for only 50%.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 11:52 AM

Macineclaw, L) The name will make more sense when he is done and has all his morph loaded. grin

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 11:55 AM

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Gotta get back to work on the feet. Here is a untextured eye pic. Please send pics. Again porn sdoesn't offend me. Photo sets are a plus if you have a body type you like.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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MachineClaw ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:02 PM

I'm sure it will in the end. Were you going for the joke? Cause I'm having a hard time trying to stop laughing.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:17 PM

I feel stupid. I don't get the joke. Is it a condom thing?Send me an IM.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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Mec4D ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:37 PM

Very well done Anton, the first 2 previewa are excellent, very natural head shape too, I guess you used lightwave (the ears) ;) for 40,000 Polygons he loks very smooth. The non injection idea is excellent. Much success with this project Anton! Cath

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:40 PM

hehe. Got the IM. Guess Maximus is also the name of a lubricant. giggles. No this is the Latin name. Think of the movie Gladiator, and not the prono version either. hehe Hey alittle toungue n' cheek sexual inuendo can eb good for marketing though here is is a funny coincidence. Will have to use it in marketing: "Maximus makes playing with your favorite figures smooth as silk" hehe

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 12:49 PM

Actually the ears I did along time ago in Raydream and cleaned them up in Wings. I don't like LW for modelling. Been using Zbrish and Poser Magnets for shaping. But now that the res is up higher I have to work in LW now. Most of the shape tweaks I do elsewhere though. The resolution is at a great level. For curiosity I subdivided again to 100,000 polygons and there is no visible difference in smoothness or bending. I think it is more about what you do with the polygons you have. He moves so fast in Poser and DS which is nice. ANd wil be easy to make morphs for. I really want him to be fun to use and make syuff for.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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Mec4D ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 1:00 PM

Yes you are right, you used the poly to max for sure, I love the way he is done and as all other can't wait to play with him too and with your new stuff for him in the future he will for sure on the top list... My compliments!

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 1:05 PM

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:) Here is the ear. I have always founf beauty in mesh lines and patterns. Being picky about the flow of the mesh has made me a better modeller I think. The mesh and map have to have a flow to them and be fun to look at. I have tried to not add any more geom than is neccessary. No random spam.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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ablc ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:02 PM

Any chance to have him in lwo (lightwave object) ? laurent


PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:14 PM

Ablc, you mean rigged for lightwave or the base development file with the morphs? BTW: here is a nice pose test I did earlier. Still tweaking joints.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:17 PM

hmm. forgot to pose testicles down. They do move.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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PheonixRising ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:22 PM

ack and forgot to pose the pecs downward and flatter. They pose too. bah well he bends nice so far.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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ablc ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:44 PM

not necessary rigged but in low poly instead of subpatch I keep thinking there is a market for LW users here. We are not all good modeler ! (i speak for myself ) Laurent


ablc ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 2:48 PM

and if he is already rigged, cool !!!!


sandoppe ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2004 at 3:16 PM

Well.....it looks as though he will be able to handle those "extreme" morphs pretty well! :) Wouldn't his fingers be pointing in....towards his back in this type of bend?


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