So far, neither 08190 or 08191 of the alpha test will even launch on my machine. I've sent DAZ all the particulars even though I'm probably just confirming what I don't wanna hear - that I need to upgrade my 6yr old Gateway 350Mhz P2. With a 7500rpm hard drive and WinXP, this machine runs as fast as a Pentium4. Or at least as fast as the few P4 machines that I've come across (which is probably the fault of their owners). Anyway, the PDF file sys requirements call for a Pentium3 at 300Mhz (for PCs). Fine. Execpt for the fact that there is no such CPU in existence (as proven by Intel Corp). So the question is, a minimum of 300Mhz or a P3(450Mhz)? I'm posting this for the benefit of anyone else using a dinosaur like mine. I'd really like to be a part of this testing process for DAZ but, some upgrades just might be in order. Keep posting those issues folks. I really want to see how this DS turns out! CyberscapE

I can't get these newer versions to run either and I'm running a dual 800Mhz PIII with a gig or RAM. HJ

Thanks for the info Ratteler. I have 512Mb of RAM so my guess would be the video card (which is the onboard/stock type). I don't know much about OpenGL, so this just might be the issue. The real bummer is the lack of an AGP slot. Especially since I have a new Raedon9600 64-bit video card that won't fit :( I had planned on a good modeller purchase with my tax return. Perhaps a new Dell might be better!

as an fyi on the vid cards, i'm currently running DS on a duron 700 w/ an ATI all-in-wonder pro & 512 mb, shich seems to work just fine. i think i paid $200 cash for my vid card 3 yrs back. i just recently (as of about 3-4 mos. ago) paid the same for an ATI 8500DV. the ati 7000 and higher cards cost more but seem more geared towards the gaming end of things - if that's what your interested in. a new(er) system sounds like a better choice if you plan to do much in the way of graphics and such.