OK, so I tweaked the makeup so more, yeah I know anal retentive, and then went to tweak Frankie's nose and chin in the Face Room. Now, P5 says that this is not an original P5 character and the morphs distort the head in weird ways. I built him on P5 Don Hi Rez and saved my continueing work as different PZ3 files. I can go back to some older versions but there's alot of tweaking of the head morphs to recreate. Any thoughts as to how many times you tweak a charcter before P5 no longer recognizes the original and doesn't it embed the original character in the PZ3 files?

Close, but you gotta do two things: 1) make the face longer and slimmer... not by much, just by a little. 2) fix the hair so that there's more forehead showing :) HTH, /P

Thanks HTH, that's what I want to do but P5 Face Room won't let me back in to tweak the morphs. I need to recess his chin, thin out his nostrils, increase the brow ridge protrusion (that's why the hair is down), and narrow the jaw line but I have no way of doing that now without writing down all the indivdual settings and reapplying to new P5 Don character. I've been at this for two months and I guess I didn't learn how to save works in progress correctly. I thought I just saved as a PZ3 file and than when I worked on again would just reopen. Oh well, I'll figure it out or someone night have a thought on how I can recover editting the morphs. Thanks for the comments! "Dinner is served!","Not meatloaf again!"

Is it possible to save Don's morphs as a pose or expression? Just wondering if you could load a fresh Don, apply the pose, then maybe face room would let you in? Or the other way around maybe? Terrible really, I have had P5 all this time and must confess I've hardly done anything with Don and Judy. Although that's mainly down to a lack of decent clothing, more than anything else.

Thanks Karen, I'll try saving as a character, exporting the morphs and see what happens! "There's a light", "Over at the Frankenstein Place!".

Bingo Karen! Thanks! Saved Franki as a new character from the latest PZ3 file and closed. Opened new file with Don P5 Hi Rez and loaded New Character on top of him, figuritively and I'm back in business. :I'm just a swet transvestite, from transexual-Transylvania!!!"

Perhaps it's time to switch to magnets? They can morph anything, but take a lot of getting used to.

The eyes need a bit of morphing. I think you need to pull the eyebrow ridges down a bit lower on the parts next to the nose.

Looks real good so far. It's getting close.

Thanks Dave! I tried magnets once so far and ended up with his nose beside the ear! I can now get back into the Face Room thanks to Karen's suggestion and will resume morphing after I finish my pizza. thanks for catching the eyebrow ridges, you're right. I was thinking I needed to protrude them more but I don't have a morph for that. I see now that I should get the result I want using your tip! Thanks again all! This is so much fun.

I have to tell you, in a million years, it never crossed my mind to see Frankenfurter show up in Poser, whatever you do, I just wanted to let you know that you are doing damned well so far. I love what you have going on the mouth, you even got that twisty little pout happening. Trust me, I saw this movie every weekend for a long time, dressed up, threw all the goodies, etc. I agree about the eyebrows, pulling them down so that he has that sultry sneering look. WOW!

Well It's been a month, how's your progress? Enqueering Mind's wanna know! LOL!