I've seen a lot of improvement with the toon shaders, and some renders of the anime doll actually look like drawings... but apart from renders, I haven't seen any manga or at least regular comics done with this model. Is it because of the lack of a male character, or is it because the anime doll face cannot be customized as much as the regular poser models can? just asking, I really don't know the answers (so don't think there are affirmations).

I would guess too, but I haven't seen any work like that (I mean, mangas or comics with anime doll) so far. Do you have any URLs to check out?

I'm willing to bet there are quite a few out there done with Anime Doll, but the artist isn't going to admit he did it with Poser, since so many manga fans appreciate it for the hand-craftsmanship of the artists. I'd also be willing to wager that MOST of the work done with Anime Doll is of the HENTAI flavor. ;)

wow, time split??? I posted after maxxxxmodelz, but my post showed up as being posted before he did? twilight zone?? or probably GMT?

hmm i think it is both ! i mean lack of correct (anatomically correct males, regarding chest area) and lack of clothes for them too. and also eyes are very strange in AD because they are not a sphere prop as usual, but flat disk, so for making some face expressiosn it is hard. whenever it comes to manga or comics, well i dunno, i'll speak about manga (i know more about): there are many styles but usually it imply uncolored black'n'white style, with very stylised/minimal indoor setting, and focusing on main characters. Also making countless cells can be painful if you have to resort on some postwork method for each, whenever you counte 6 to 9 celles a page... but it is posslbe. also use of sketch render (for "shading" or pencil look) can be an option but sketch settings are very difficult to master whenever you have a very specific look in mind and want to reproduce it. i saw some pages of comics using Adoll in rotica so far; i can say myself i was working (logn ago, will get back to it) on a "doujinshi like" thing, but not very hardcore; it would have been mainly half romance half softcore material, and i decided to rather make it an illustrated story (with much text, and poser renders/pictures to illustrate each text passage) than real comic with a layout and such. At the time i began working on the story (so far only 1 chapter is "ready" as the story, and requires something like 8 pictures), there wre NO AD male alternative, i dont have michael (so no AD head hybrid) and as such, i planned an "all girl" focused story. You can see in my gallery some of my earliest cellshading pictures featuring some of the characters i planned to put into this (Token of love, for Sayuki character, and Inner voices / Ichigo strike Erin for Erin; and there were 2 more characters) another probleme regarding toon render are especialy furnitures and indoor settings; most low polygon meshs are fine in rendered mode but are often flawed (i had shown many bugs in the forum on in my tutorial to explain my point) . if you want something more than just characters, you have to cheat a lot cause most available room/furniture etc won't behave well in cartoon mode. So non character elemetns are also an issue well btw i still am "available"/ready for some character design and scenario/plot making, but also bear in mind (you sure know about it) that making a whole story/comic all alone is very hard. Best is whenever you can find peopel for each different aspect to specialise themselves on and share ressources and time. I am also working on an "dirty instant" cellshading technic that produce farless pleasant results than my "bestof a lamer" method so far, but has the advantage of beign very quick to apply on a big number of pictures in a row. It could be useful (combined with at least some kind of sketch mode maybe) to mass produce celles for a AD/Poser comic/manga also there is the problem of people who uses p4 only (i do); and this add to the complexity of the thing (unlinke p5 and its shader/material room, no easy use of transparency, transmapped items, textured clothes and such) so far i finally found a bunch of methodes that allow me to bypas nearly all limitations of poser4 related to a cartoon likemode, i mean i can use transmapped hairs, transparency and transmapped clothes, textured clothes and make them look cellshaded (the hairs are more difficult to cellshad as tsmapped ones); well so far i finally got rid of most "challenges" i inflicted upon myself... but each "feat" requires additionnal work each ! (btw how is your website ? still under reconstruction ? had been empty/closed for months)

wow, that's a lot of info.. I see now why I don't see any anime doll mangas around... thanks for letting us know a litle how it works. about my website, yeah, still under reconstruction... been really busy with commissions, but I hope to have time to work on it real soon.

I always thought it would be neat to see a full comic done with Anime Doll. Unfortunately--as others have mentioned--the lack of a compatible (in style) male figure (plus clothing) does limit what you can do. Personally I use Koshini + Ichiro for my comic (Spook Chasers in my gallery, check it out, plug, plug). Sorry couldn't resist.

so far there are males for animedol.. khrys made a decent one, but it is rmp item.. DJ hand tried one with magnets, very impressie but still lackign a few things and i am trying to make one too, based mostly on magnets too and starting with DJ han ideas.. have a thrread here on this forum about it for people without michael, there is stil the possibility to make an hybrid "dork with ad head", but it is hard khrys added male support for casual style (tshirt and jeans from maya), lyrra made the mayadude (but her clothing fix for him should work for an AD male)

For those with POser 5 I suggest looking into a shader node called 'toon' I've been experimenting with it recently to good result. As you can see I'm mixing my textures with the shaders to get almost a watercolor effect, but you can get a pure celshaded effect as well. Poser5 render, no postwork

and I will be buying the animedoll shortly ... so look for my male version of her not long after. No promises, but I'm talking to Steve Shanks about my doing some conversions of PW clothing items for MayaDoll/Dude and AnimeDoll/Dude. Again poser5 render yes RENDER with toon shaders, no postwork