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Subject: Irritable rant re. cookies or spybots or sump'n


pogmahone ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 4:26 AM · edited Thu, 07 November 2024 at 9:49 PM

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I've been having problems for the last few days with my browser - I'll click a link, and the page will start to 'go', but I'm left looking at an unloaded page until I give up and close the window. My Friday night automatic virus scan found and fixed something. I ran another virus scan this morning, but nothing found. I've just run SpyBot Search and Destroy, and I don't know what this is that it's turned up. Do you think it's safe to destroy it? Is it spyware? The name doesn't convey anything to me :o(


Rochr ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 4:52 AM · edited Sun, 08 August 2004 at 4:53 AM

Attached Link: http://www.google.se/search?q=dso+exploit&ie=UTF-8&hl=eng&meta=

Ive had this before, and im pretty sure i deleted them. You may want to wait for second opinions, but check the link above while you do. :)

Message edited on: 08/08/2004 04:53

Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
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chohole ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 5:58 AM

I find that I can quite safely delete anything that spybot chucks up in red, like these. Hasn't given me any problems up till now doing that.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



pogmahone ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 6:06 AM

Thanks for the link. My AV is up-to-date, and I downloaded and installed all MS security updates last week, but obviously you might as well be p*****g in the wind as try to have any security with Windoze. I used Spybot to delete the DSOexploit thingies, so fingers crossed. My nephew, who's not very computer savvy, has an unusable pc at the moment. He can't even go online any more, his browser has been taken over by porn. I think it must be one of those 'fun' coolwebsearch things. Haven't a notion how to get rid of it, he has Win98, so it's not possible to go back to an earlier configuration like it is with XP.


Rochr ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 6:09 AM

Reformat is the best way. Sounds like that system needs it. :)

Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com


pogmahone ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 6:36 AM

Yup, unfortunately I think you're right :o( Luckily he doesn't use it for anything but internet, so he doesn't have 5 years' worth of work to lose!!


Rochr ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 6:55 AM

Just make sure that he has the windows update files, and an antivirus installed before he logs on the web. Hell get Sasser otherwise. Zonealarm is also a good thing.

Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com


Swade ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 9:42 AM

You are safe in deleting the stuff Spybot finds... I have yet to have any trouble with doing so...

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary, and those who don't. 

A whiner is about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest.


Grey_cat ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 10:27 AM

There's a worm going around called "sandboxer". Do a search for information about it on the web. I don't think you're going to like what you find, because I think that's what you might have.


pakled ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 10:42 AM

also, it may not be a virus, but 'malware', a background download by going to the 'wrong' page. I have c(r)ool Web Search stuck on my machine. Here's how bad it is..
It downloads itself to your System32 directory as a randomly-named dll file, and executes on startup. I creates registry entries to change your home page to 'about:blank', then puts a few others in there as well. If you use anti-spyware, it randomly re-names the dll. I have the following running; Spybot, Add-aware, CWShredder, Spy Sweeper, Killbox, and the score is Cool Web Search 1, all other programs 0. It finally 'killed' IE altogether, so I use Mozilla now. I got IE back, but it immediately became infected again.
This is how they work..why do a virus, when you can @#$% up someones' machine so much more effectively this way...rant over..;)
Most of the above programs are free, and frequently updated. You can fight some of this stuff to a draw, but I wouldn't be surprised if I have to reformat the Hard drive to get rid of it..so far, I'll just use mozilla (which is free, too)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


pogmahone ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 11:15 AM

hmmmnnnnn....I deleted it earlier, just ran Spybot again and the same thing is back :o( I know I don't have the dreaded CoolWebSearch because when someone visits my website with an infected machine it shows up in the Raw Log Files. So I've visited and checked, nothing showing in the details about my pc. Next month's competition subject should be an instrument of torture for the a******* who dream up these things and distribute them.


attileus ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 11:30 AM

A tip: If your browser is kidnapped (after checking out some love sites :-) you can run a built-in Win XP feature -the SystemRecover! Just go back to a day when everthing worked and it will heal your browser.


ttops ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 11:49 AM

Attached Link: http://lavasoft.element5.com/software/adaware/

Solution to all your problems.


danamo ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 12:25 PM

I do the same as attileus. So far system recover has always worked for me to restore my system and get rid of @#$% malware. Of course most of the folks who over-clock and hotrod their PCs in quest of every last ounce of performance they can wrest from their system will have this feature turned-off 'cause it "bloats the OS and slows down the computer",lol.


pogmahone ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 12:50 PM

I did a system restore back to July 1st, ran Spybot, and the bugger's still there :o(( Next step ttops lavasoft link, I think. I've changed over to Mozilla, think I'll stay with it from now on.


MoonGoat ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 12:58 PM

Lavasoft's free Ad-Aware 6.1 keeps me safe.


orbital ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 2:01 PM

Any cool web search probs, download cwshredder this kills most problems. I had a similair problem for a while with a browser hijack and tried spybot, adaware etc only cwshredder solved my problem.

http://joevinton.blogspot.com/


Kemal ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 2:42 PM

Like orbital said CWS Shredder is the ONLY way to go, trust me, I got CoolWeb Search which was installed trough some freeware i found on the web, so, you always get what do you pay for, lol !!!


Kemal ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 2:45 PM

Attached Link: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html

Here is the link with some really helpful things about it !!! :)


sackrat ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 3:04 PM

Try an app called Pest Patrol(do a google search), It gets stuff even Adaware and Spybot misses,.........it costs $49 US(and there is no workable demo) but it gets EVERYTHING ! Even gets rid of stuff from the infamous N case 180 Solutions and Gator. Just be sure to quarrantine the offenders first.

"Any club that would have me as a member is probably not worth joining" -Groucho Marx


Swade ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 3:09 PM · edited Sun, 08 August 2004 at 3:19 PM

Attached Link: http://www.spychecker.com/program/hijackthis.html

Download (at the link above) and run Hijackthis.... If you are unsure about what you are looking for or what to do with it... visit a place like

http://forums.techguy.org/index.php

You will get good help from them in cleaning the crap out of your system.

There is a Quick Start that shows you how to use HijackThis at the following url...

http://www.tomcoyote.org/hjt/

Hope this helps a little.... it can help prevent the need for reformatting. Yep Sackrat... I use PestPatrol, SpyBot, and HijackThis along with McAfee Antivirus. It is a shame that people have to run so many programs to keep the junk stuff off their computers.

Message edited on: 08/08/2004 15:19

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary, and those who don't. 

A whiner is about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest.


Innovator ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 3:34 PM

yeah, you might want to think about reformatting, and if you were using IE before thats part or better yet most of the problem. IE has more holes than swiss cheese. Use a more secure browser like Mozilla Firefox or Opera. I also use Adaware which has been mentioned as well as antivir. It has kept me pretty good thus far.


pakled ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 10:31 PM

I hate to be the party pooper, but this version has beaten and laughed at
Ad-aware
(Can find the results of CWS, but not delete it) Hijack this
Spy Sweeper
(finds it, but can't delete it
Cwshredder (the latest version can't even find it
And I sympathize with poguemahone (sp?), I have a little fantasy involving finger bones and a ball-peen hammer...and I'm usually a nice guy..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


markostimpy ( ) posted Sun, 08 August 2004 at 10:59 PM

DSO exploit, as far as I know is a know hole in Internet Explorer. Just running Mozilla or Opera will not do the trick (it will still show up). IE is in a minor way part of the Windows OS. Run IE6 service pack from microsoft.com and update Spybot and AdAware definitions should get rid of it.

Mark S. Popham

markostimpy@gmail.com


pogmahone ( ) posted Mon, 09 August 2004 at 3:44 AM

I guess I'll just have to live with it :o( I updated everything (spybot, adaware, IE6 service pack)...close, but no cigar Also, I reformatted my nephew's hd last night - spybot found 146 malware items, that refused to die. I can't even see the logic in all that stuff, because the pc was unusable - I couldn't even get the Start button to work - so you HAVE to reformat. If the malware was a bit less destructive guys like him wouldn't even know it was there, would surf blissfully on, which is what you'd think the malware people want.


danamo ( ) posted Mon, 09 August 2004 at 12:04 PM

Awww, you're a good Auntie Pog!


pauljs75 ( ) posted Mon, 09 August 2004 at 1:53 PM

There is a way to beat some of these things. It involves booting up in safe mode (disables all but essential startup items) and then figuring your way around regedit. If that fails for some reason, then it's time to reformat.


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pakled ( ) posted Mon, 09 August 2004 at 5:53 PM

nope..did the safe mode/delete dll/reboot..they though of that..but it would beat some of them..;) There's a command that kills individual named processes, now if I could just remember it..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


pogmahone ( ) posted Tue, 10 August 2004 at 2:11 AM

I'm p****s that I'm paying annually for Norton AV and Internet Securiyt with automatic live update and it didn't catch whatever it is. Seems like I'da been as well off with a freebie AV glower


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