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Subject: - TRAPPER KIT 1 - Great new models coming soon !!!!


faveral ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 4:46 PM ยท edited Sat, 28 December 2024 at 12:13 AM

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faveral ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 4:47 PM

Hope you'll like them ! ;)


dlk30341 ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 4:57 PM

Very cool....Outstanding work!!!


Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 5:26 PM

wow, man... this is just awesome... You have a big fan in me :)

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854



Dizzie ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 5:44 PM

awesome is right!


Niles ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 6:58 PM

Looks great! Does it come with steel traps?


sixus1 ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 7:00 PM

Great looking texturing. :)


Deus_Viridis ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 8:13 PM

the gun lookes coroded shure they are all now but shoudint they be polish back then?


romanceworks ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 8:53 PM

Wow, these look fantastic! Great work. You are a very talented modeler! :o) CC


Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 9:23 PM

oh yes...you really do need some traps if its a trapper kit :) Wow..good thing you pointed that out Niles :)

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854



faveral ( ) posted Wed, 11 August 2004 at 10:31 PM

Thanks every one for the nice comments ! This Trapper Kit is the first one in a series of maybe 3 or 4, so there will be more stuff coming up in the next packages. The traps are a good idea ! I might add a couple small items to this first pack too, like a powder horn and a bullet pouch... It all depends on the size of the final zip, no more than 25 Mb at a time ! (and let me tell you, some of the above models are pretty heavy in polygons, and the textures are not small either !) So, if you're interrested, keep an eye out, there will be more models coming. ;) Thanks again eveyone !


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 12:18 AM

Oooo ... nice detail on the birchbark canoe. I haven't seen one of those in decades. Excellent job of weathering on the knife and hatchet blades, also.



Philywebrider ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 4:23 AM

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freyfaxi ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 5:01 AM

Looking very nice. I've just one (very minor) comment - the ramrod for the pistol looks a lil flimsy for the work it had to do - I'd make it look maybe a bit thicker. Can't wait to see these ones in the store.


Philywebrider ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 7:05 AM

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The thickness of the metal on the cocking piece/hammer looks too thin, it looks like sheet metal. The flint is knapped wrong. I'm not sure what the metal bands are for, unless they are suppose to go over the barrel, to hold the barrel on or under the ramrod to hold the ramrod on.. Usually the barrel is Pinned on. Everything is terrific, you just need to research the flintlocks more. I attached a flintlock sample pic.


faveral ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 10:53 AM

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Hi all, I really appreciate all your comments about this work. Everything is probably not accurate to the dot, however I really try to stick to historical pieces. Phily, the pic you posted here represents flintlocks from a much ealier period than the one in question. The ones on this picture date back, I would say to the 1750's, whereas the equipment I modelled is more in the 1820's. So a lot of the ornementation in the flintlock design has disappeared to give way to a cheaper more practical to use design. (I attached a pic of the lock itself which dates from that era). As for the metal bands, I'm not sure either what they were for, but they were there. (see the picture of this "Horse Pistol", which was the model used by most trappers back then) The rifle is the french trading gun design, (not the Kentucky design), which was very common back then in all trading posts of what's now new england, and south eastern Canada. I am sure there are flaws in this work and I am really glad that you point them out to me, it helps me make better products. Again, thanks a lot for all your comments ! Luc


nickedshield ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 11:09 AM

faveral, one item you might want to look into for your next package is an animal skin, deer, scabbard for the rifle. The rifle is the Trapper's main source of food gathering and protection, would want to keep it protected when not in use. Just something to keep you busy g

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


Philywebrider ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 11:37 AM

Hi faveral On the pistol example you show the band in the middle goes over the barrel, (helps hold the barrel in place), the metal to the right is an endcap on the wood. I think the hammer should be thicker, a hammer as thin as yours would bend etc too easy. I realize the metal is flat, but it should be thicker. Take a good look at the flint in your example. In any case I'm proably too picky. You do good work.


nickedshield ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 1:33 PM

Hummm, the only big difference between faveral's flint and the one pictured is that faveral doesn't have the little piece of leather holding the flint. As far as the thickness of the metal, I think the texture, which is very good for a utilitarian weapon, is decieving. Just my observations for whatever they're are worth.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


faveral ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 7:54 PM

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A riffle, a pistol, and not bullet bag or powder horn ! Silly me ! Ok, now it's fixed !


JoPol ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 8:10 PM

Thank You !! They both look great and, and the bullet pouch fits in with the rest of the textures. Sincerely, JoPol


sandoppe ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 9:55 PM ยท edited Thu, 12 August 2004 at 10:01 PM

This is simply outstanding! I love these period pieces and especially anything that has to do with the American frontier....east or west :) Wonderful detail and textures. You are on my "favorite merchant" list here and I start checking Poser Pros the minute you post in this forum! :) You will have another sale from me!

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freyfaxi ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 10:23 PM

This is really looking at being a great series. I don't know what you have planned for the others..but maybe you could include a 'dead beaver' that the trapper could be removing from a trap..also a bundle of beaver skins packed up for transport, and maybe one stretched out on a hoop for curing. The detail in the textures you've shown so far are awesome..


sandoppe ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 10:38 PM

Freyfaxi: You could also buy a "Lyne Beaver" (VIP),and pose it dead!! :) The beaver skins as well as a variety of skins trapped during that period would be good for sure.


nomuse ( ) posted Thu, 12 August 2004 at 10:49 PM

Man. You are definately one of my favorite texture artists (in addition to of course the lovely models -- I'm envious; takes me a week to add a couple new pieces to a set!) I do love the deep richness of natural materials, and your stuff is some of the few that isn't afraid to show the knots and bumps. However.....:).... I'd love to see what you could do with a little gentle distressing. That rifle, for instance; if the metalwork was shinier where it rubbed against things, and duller where more protected. And dirt and grime on the bags. And so on and so forth! Don't change a thing for me, tho. Heck, a decent Poser wrangler should be able to paint up a little dirt when and where needed.


ghoyle1 ( ) posted Fri, 13 August 2004 at 6:31 AM

This is great stuff, but where are we to find clothing to go with it?


linwhite ( ) posted Fri, 13 August 2004 at 1:21 PM

I love this. You have done a super job. It will also fit right in with all your other great Western kits. Most excellent work and I love how you texture things so very realistically. Linda


Dave-So ( ) posted Fri, 13 August 2004 at 10:02 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=28417

clothing ... RenaPD has a set here...I'm not sure its from the right period, but its a mountain man set...

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854



faveral ( ) posted Fri, 13 August 2004 at 10:08 PM

The final pack has been uploaded today. So, expect the usual week in the testing queue, and if all goes well it should be released just in time for next week end ! (I like these outfits, by the way... Maybe I'll try to make one too as part of these sets... We'll see...) Have a good week-end !


ghoyle1 ( ) posted Fri, 13 August 2004 at 11:25 PM

Thanks for the clothing link, Dave-So! As soon as I come up with some ideas for mountain men, I'm grabbing them and the Trapper Kit!


ghoyle1 ( ) posted Fri, 13 August 2004 at 11:26 PM

Thanks for the clothing link, Dave-So! As soon as I come up with some ideas for mountain men, I'm grabbing them and the Trapper Kit!


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 14 August 2004 at 1:22 PM

I have a coonskin cap here in Free Stuff.



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