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Subject: michael hair


ENGELKEN ( ) posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 10:45 PM · edited Tue, 19 November 2024 at 12:53 PM

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Just because it is soooo hard to find good hair for His Lordship Millenium and the M3 heir, I would like to share a new discovery. I have no personal share in this product. (Oh, I wish...) And I am certain the 3Dream folk need no referral from moi, but I am not sure this gem would be apparent in something called "Egypt Hair," so I have added a few fast renderings which I hope convey my delight with this item.


Tyger_purr ( ) posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 11:11 PM

especially since egypt hair only says it fits V3 (and a EJ fit link is on the page). is that really egypt hair? does it fit other characters or do you have some sort of conversion going?

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PeterJok ( ) posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 11:28 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=33204

I dont have Egypt Hair but I know that all hr2 files with a lot of morph targets can be used in any poser figure. Egypt Hair is a hr2 file and includes 276 morphs. Its a super versatil hair. Peter


PeterJok ( ) posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 11:42 PM

Product description of Egypt Hair: "Egypt Hair includes 276 morph targets to create many long, medium an short styles and to fit in any poser figure (male or female)." Peter


movida ( ) posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 11:51 PM

Thank you :)


ENGELKEN ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 2:06 AM

In answer:

Yes, that is the Egypt Hair.
No, no special conversion.

...that, by the way, is a question I never quite understand. Hair is a smart prop. You never hear anyone asking, "Where do I get the conversion so Mike can hold that sword in his hand, instead of Vickie's in hers?"

load the hair/prop. Adjust the trans x,y,z to center on the character's head/hand/whatever. In the case of hair, Mike usually needs a little increase on the Scale dial, 102 to 104% max...and, voila, M3 conversion. (we'll assume you started with the character in zeroed position.)

re-parent to head and lock actor, if you're going to be moving the main figure around a lot.


pokeydots ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 2:42 AM

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Looks Great! I bought the hair, but I only used it on Aiko so far, here is how it look on her.

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Tyger_purr ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 8:24 AM

maybe they need to revise the ad.

I scan over this thing and saw that it said "Hair object for DAZ Victoria 3.0" (emphasis copied from ad) and stopped their, because I dont have V3.

If Egypt hair has fits or morphs to fit others it would be advantageous to list as many as possible.

Engelken:

that, by the way, is a question I never quite understand. Hair is a smart prop. You never hear anyone asking, "Where do I get the conversion so Mike can hold that sword in his hand, instead of Vickie's in hers?"

Hair is like conforming clothing, there is an expectation that it will fit in a specified character within a certain tolerance. I have tried adjusting trans and scales to fit hair to other characters, I have never been satisfied with the results.

With my limited time and slow computer, I choose to spend my money on things that I dont have to adjust or magnet to make fit.

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randym77 ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 8:38 AM

For me, hair is like a prop. In fact, it's easier to fit hair to alternate characters than it is to get a sword properly positioned in a figure's hand. It would never occur to me to ask which hair a character is meant for. I never use magnets, just scaling.

The only time I've had trouble fitting hair to characters is when it has a lot of morphs, and you want a windblown style. Sometimes you get bald spots in front when using that sort of hair, unless the fit is perfect.

And yes, this hair looks utterly amazing!


PeterJok ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 8:50 AM · edited Tue, 30 November 2004 at 8:52 AM

There are cr2 hair and hr2 hair

cr2 hair - is like clothes. They only can be used in one figure (eg. SP3). Most of this hair styles are long hair styles (Aeris Hair by Danae, Glorious Hair by 3Dream, etc...)

hr2 hair - is like a smart prop that can be applyed in any figure by changing the x,y,ztran and working with the morphs. If a hr2 hair includes a lot of morphs, then it will be easier to fit in any figure.

Egypt Hair is a hr2 hair (can be applyed in any figure)

HEY! The male and Aiko hair styles for Egypt Hair are GREAT!!!

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Tyger_purr ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 9:17 AM

I understand the diffrence. I view hair (even hr2 files) as clothing that should fit. I choose to spend my money on hair that I do not have to spend my time "changing the x,y,z tran and working with the morphs."

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randym77 ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 10:16 AM

I haven't had any trouble using CR2 hair on other characters. I just scale it and parent it to the head.

It does end up looking pretty scary if you actually try to conform it to a different character, though!


kobaltkween ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 12:19 PM

how much can the front of the hair be changed? to use on multiple characters, i think it would be enhanced in usefulness if it could have various hairlines to go with different styles. can you at least flip it like koz's hair?



ENGELKEN ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 4:02 PM

Attached Link: http://renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1835532&Form.sess_id=24329204&Form.sess_key=110

Given the nearly 300 morphs, I suspect you can make it stand on its head and whistle Dixie. Seriously, though--this is a "hairpiece" made with infinite skill and meticulous detail which does not fail at even the most extreme distortions or odd camera angles. As for the flipping--it is the easiest thing in the world to do. I won't repost here, but the link refers to the method.


kobaltkween ( ) posted Tue, 30 November 2004 at 4:55 PM

thank you for the link and the information. it will come in handy, i'm sure. i was thinking more generally, though. all the pictures show morphed hair that all has the same exact front. there could easily be 300 length, movement and shaping morphs all for the hair that hangs. that would still make it great and very versatile. i'd just be interested in seeing different hairlines.



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