Given the recent turn of events, I decided to play it safe and remove from my gallery and freestuff anything that might be connected to any copyrighted material I know of (I hope the Statue of Liberty and the UNO logo are not copyrighted). I also removed any picture wich could infringe on the nudity rules (boy, the 80% rule is hard to estimate...). I also removed the freestuff items whose thumbnails might be unsure regarding these rules. Now the question is : my "art" surely is not great, but I don't dislike some things I made in the sexy, pin up, or nude department, and would like to publish them on a artists' site. This is nothing porno, not even erotic, just artistic nudity. Where would you publish such pictures ?

well maybe at the vulgarbard portal ???

anyway i feel concerned with your problem, i too have unreleased fun material i could not share with the communauty and not display.

maybe you should buy your own website, and if you have already one, either add a section for this.

the fact you nearly removed all from here pains me, where will i find what you deleted, now ?

Most freestuff I deleted is already at the AnimeDoll portal, and the AD pics I deleted here will end up there. But there are still images which are not anime, and thus not suited for the AD portal. Publishing on my own site is a bit pointless IMHO, because I'm no one on the art scene. Actually, I'd like to hear about an artists' site I could submit my small hobbyist production to.

I thought the 80% rule was for the first page in RMP? Has R'sity gone after the galleries too?

At the moment, these rules are only officially for the marketplace, but the way things are going, I'm taking no chance.
Given the way that some recent enforcements were done (fire first, then explain afterwards), I think it's better to be safe than sorry.

Message edited on: 11/30/2004 17:15

Attached Link: http://rendervisions.com/

Guess I'll eventually have to toast my gallery too. I don't have fan art, but I do have my skimpy clad female characters. Such a pity.

People formerly associated with this site created the Renderotica website for images prohibited by the TOS here. Although I doubt if old gallery images here are affected, since there's no way they would waste time going through all those pages looking for porno. It just wouldn't be cost-effective to do anything but complaint-based enforcement.

Rotica is just too porno for my kind of art. I'm just into artistic nudity or pin-ups with a glimpse at a nipple. This kind of things. As for the retroactivity, I'm pretty sure that if someone complains about one of my pic, I will be told that I had agreed to abide by the TOS, so it was my responsibility not to post something questionable. I don't like the idea of risking to fin a black mark on my record one morning just for being lazy removing some of my posts. Besides, it's just a few pics : I'm a slow poster and hobbyist. It's not as if I had posted 3 images a day for years... ;)

wish i still can get in touch with you compiler... as for myself, as RO's only valuable feature is to keep you the opportunity to download over and over again the products you purchased there (at least for those who are still in RMP) and i do not want to loose this ability (in case of hard drive crash, CDR crash, bad luck and the like) i just wanted to keep my account here running but aside from that, dont expect anything of me here anymore !!! I will quote a "famous" wise man: "The game is over !"

Hm, except for one lone Vicky, my gallery's got scantily clad males. Does the 80% rule apply there too? I've already pulled my fan art and am revising it; if I have to put burkas on all my original characters, too, I might as well just pack up and leave. And I really would hate to do that. :-(

Oh man! Does this mean we have to go put pants on all the Davinich's at the museum next?? And then what, Pants on ducks?? Aren't renders of Frankenstein, vampires, trolls, pixies, faeries, griffins, unicorns, mummies, dinosaurs all considered "fan art" too? I mean like they aren't 'original' ideas or concepts?? hmmm, what should I do next....nope, been done but Disney...perhaps...nope, one like it by Warner Bros...maybe...nope, too similar to Star Wars....how about....naw, similar to Tolkin...but I can....no, already been done by Paramount....but there's.....drat, Columbia Pictures did that in the 80's.....however....nope....nope....nope....nope.... Seems to me like 99.9% of any "art" done by anyone ever was inspired by something they had seen or experienced somewhere in their live. So I guess now only that .01% that we can come up with now is acceptable for Renderosity?? Heck, look at Hollywood these days, they can't even think of anything "original" except for one or two a decade and the other half thousand attempts fall flat on their face so they've turned to remakes and reproductions of old favorites.

There's always RaunchyMinds, which has a pinup gallery and a G-Rated gallery in addition to the more hardcore stuff. The forums are very friendly and pleasant, too. I can't give the url (or put the dot com on the end) because it's a violation of TOS, but you can do that yourself, I reckon. There's also Poser Pros, which has no problem with artistic nudity and also has a pretty lively forum crowd. bonni

Raunchy's a good place; I keep my uncensored stuff there. And they've got a great forum. But it would be nice to have a few more options.

What are the rules at 3DCommune? Do they allow "artistic nudity"?

I have the "Adamski UFO" in the freestuff that is copyrighted by the Venusians, but I am a bad boy and though, I shall ignore their copyrights and leave the UFO in the freestuff. For any complain you must deal with my friends the Ferrenguis!

What are the rules at 3DCommune? Do they allow "artistic nudity"? Last time I checked, yes. But they do have a habit of yanking images that give credit for any item sold other than 3DC, or that was the case not so very long ago. bonni

Rotica is just too porno for my kind of art. I'm just into artistic nudity or pin-ups with a glimpse at a nipple. This kind of things. Yup, there aren't many places that the "middle of the road" art can go. I like mild erotica myself ... but I won't post at Renderotica. Gee, where would we put a religious picture of Adam and Eve before the fall? If I'm not mistaken, they weren't created with clothes on.

"Rotica is just too porno for my kind of art."

AFAIK FayrieWylde allows any kind of (artistic) nudity, but is opposed to violence and porn.

But its up to you to decide what scares you more:

Psycho Mike happily procreating with Vicky while she is spilling her guts all over the floor, or a few renders of bare butted Fairy jail bait frolickin around in the woods.

:-)

Attached Link: http://www.innertraveler.com

Message edited on: 12/01/2004 01:48

" Rotica is just too porno for my kind of art. I'm just into artistic nudity or pin-ups with a glimpse at a nipple. This kind of things." There's always http://www.deviantart.com/

Sounds like we need an escape committee to choose the site where the Renderosity refugees will congregate. Don't want a diaspora.

Attached Link: http://www.studioverite.com

most "non specific poser" websites would not be friendly enough for poser users :( if you find a decent poser communauty website with tolerant gallery, tell me.. not that i care anymore now, but... sake of curiosity

I think the idea of the 80% rule migrating to the galleries has quite a few members concerned, as it only applies to the 1st marketplace image I find it unlikely that it will personally - perhaps we could get the official line from the mods or something about future plans? Is the complete banning of all nudity in the galleries on the cards?

www.rendervisions.com, www.dreamslayerartworks.com, www.raunchyminds.com. A few of the 'nudity friendly' sites. Smaller communities, friendlier folks. ;oP JV

Thanks for all the ideas, folks. There are great site I never had heard of before !

rendervision has a painful site engine tat does not really handle well the ressources (gfx of the interface etc) and that is sluggish even on my DSL cause it keeps loading the sames files each page, even if i set up a disk cache ! i think there is a gap to fill between hyppocrisie in 3d suggestive art and real porn, somethign in between that has no place either here or in rotica, but where ? i had have dozens of nice but not allrating pictures in my drive that i could never share with anyone so far... so i kept them. anyway i got an idea: i'll register a patent/copyright on nipples of some parts of female anatomy :) sure it could be fun afterwards :)

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FaerieWylde does allow artistic nudity but we do not allow any kind of nudity - even if it's artistic:

1. No lewd display of genitals.

2. No sexual contact; no sexual displays of any kind.

3. No rape or torture of any creature, living or dead.

4. No nude photographs of minors or images apparently derived from nude photographs of minors ( under the age of 18 ).

Every image that violates one of this rules will get removed and you can be pretty sure that the faeries have their eyes everywhere. Don't want anyone to get a wrong impression about this place.

Puntomaus
FaerieWylde Admin

(starts cut-paste new websites to bookmark but wonders when he'll have the time to visit and peruse other sites and also finish all the other unfinished poser projects) :-O

can someone post a link for faeriewylde as the one I have seems to be dead & google just gives me the dead one I already have :(

For me too - I just tried with the URL I have bookmarked and got: "You are not authorized to view this page You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied". Which is very strange as I visited this site just 2 days ago. I also just did a google search, and clicking the link in Google got me the same message.

Your links are most likely good... But, it's looking like the server is down because renderotica is also down and I believe they are on the same server :)

Attached Link: http://www.faeriewylde.com

ah that's good to know but bad news at the same time :/ thanks for confirming my link is the right one anyway :)