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Subject: Piano WIP


drawbridgep ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 7:26 PM · edited Sat, 23 November 2024 at 11:24 PM

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I was just looking through a few galleries and came across Doublecrash's piano. So, thought I'd try. Keys created in Wings, but everything else (what there is) is Bryce. Very slight levels adjustment, but that's all so far.

The gaps between the keys look different spacing, which is a bit weird, so I'll need to fix that. Any other suggestions?

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pauljs75 ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 7:46 PM

Some old pianos are actually like that (wear & tear, etc.) But other than the gaps varying it looks pretty good.


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eelie ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 7:54 PM

Oooooo! Nice! :)


drawbridgep ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 7:56 PM

I showed my wife and she said that all pianos have different gaps. None are perfect. but we're talking Bryceway here. :-)

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 8:24 PM

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I think I'll probably post this version tomorrow. unless I get some really good ideas overnight.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 9:27 PM
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No, no, no! that's BRYCENUTS & Sons..... Pretty cool stuff. Being on the dole suits you!

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 9:30 PM

Only wish I could claim the dole.

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striving ( ) posted Fri, 03 December 2004 at 10:01 PM

This looks pretty good man. Nice work. love the DOF too.


TobinLam ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 12:25 AM

When I saw the topic I knew this had to be good. I am really curious what the objects are in the reflection. It look to me like an office chair and a model ocean liner. That is a very good image and idea. Well done!


RodsArt ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 1:02 AM

Nice work!!

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pogmahone ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 2:48 AM

Can't tell if it's meant to be a very modern keyboard. Living in a house full of pianos and keyboards, my only suggestion would be that most keyboards I see have 'white' keys that are more yellow, and the red cushioning material is more obviously made of felt. But......those are old-ish instruments, so ignore me if this is brand spanking new!


chohole ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 6:36 AM

If that piano was in my house there would be a cat on the keyboard :-)

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 6:46 AM

I'm not sure how to do the felt texture, (so didn't try). Yellow keys. Yeah, they do. Probably something to do with real ivory. So assume this is a brand spanking new one, hot of the Bryce assembly line. Maybe I'll do another one with it aged a bit. TobinLam - The reflection is actually looking back from a stage to the seats in a concert hall. I didn't want it to be too obvious, so rotated the sphere to show more of an abstract. The black curved thing in the centre reflection is a set of speakers that face the audience.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 9:41 AM
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I haven't got a piano, but I'd swap it for the cat in a second...!

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TobinLam ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 11:32 AM

Wow, I was way off! But I still don't see it. It is definitley not too obvious. It would probably be easier to see with a higher quality image. I can't wait to see it in the gallery.


pakled ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 1:33 PM

looks great to me..I guess it depends on the make and model; I've played everything from fairly good to some really beat-up models..have done some keyboard models in my time..though you actually cut out the gaps for the black keys (I got lazy..but then I was doing electronic versions..;)..a nice touch..great textures..now if you pull back some and show us the rest..this is going places, keep with it..

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 1:43 PM

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OK, here's the same scene from a bit further back. I'm sure you're blown away by the skill I have in modelling the rest of the piano. :-) I'm a pupil of the "If you can't see it, don't model it" school.

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draculaz ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 1:51 PM

bloody hell.. excellent!


tresamie ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 2:08 PM

Most concerts featuring piano have the piano sideways to the audience so that they can see both the instrument and the pianist, so what would be reflected would be the wings or walls, depending on the type of stage. Light racks, curtains, flys, etc. would be most appropriate (even an emergency exit, lol!)

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Swade ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 3:13 PM

This is excellent Phil!

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ddruckenmiller ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 6:00 PM

Looks good - now I'll have to wait another four months to do one... What I want to know is are you using reflective images from Indiana now or are you still using ones from the UK?


Doublecrash ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 6:25 PM

Hi Phillip. As you already know, I commented on this one on CGT. I'm really honored to be an inspiration to you: I admire a lot your works with Bryce and this is really flattering. Pianos are very difficult to model, with my "Steinway" I did the same: I didn't model what the viewer couldn't see :) And, as far as modeling goes, if you look at mine you'll see that I really messed up the black keys, modeling them way more square like they are in reality. If you're interested in some very detailed reference drawings of all the parts of a Grand Piano, I have them. They're also orthographic, so you can use them to draw upon. I should have a couple of Steinway logos somewhere on my HD. Just IM me and I'll send them to you. I really want to try one in XSI, but I'm waaaaaay behind the modeling skills needed to complete such a complex work. S.


drawbridgep ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2004 at 7:44 PM

ddruckenmiller - I plundered this one from the net. I'm not proud of it though. :-)

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 06 December 2004 at 8:48 AM

A few people in the CGTalk forum (Doublecrash) noticed some errors in the shadows near the black keys. Mainly down to having one strong light without softshadows. So I've fixed that by adding ten lights with softshadows. Increased the render time from 10 minutes to 4 hours, but I hope it's fixed the problem. GalleryThumb826497.jpg

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