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Subject: Solution to an old problem.

drawbridgep opened this issue on Jan 10, 2005 · 20 posts
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drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 7:45 PM · edited Tue, 31 December 2024 at 9:14 PM

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I've seen this before when working with glass and radial lights. I've even asked before, but can't remember if there was a known reason for it, or if it's just a bug. Any ideas?

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lordstormdragon ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 7:59 PM

It's both a bug and just a technical problem. Have you tried turning up the Ray-Depth? I actually think it was a light-gel problem... let me go back and check...

drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:02 PM

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Get rid of the radials and turn the sun back on and it's fine. Weird!

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Zhann ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:04 PM

I had the same thing happen when posing several thick walled glass decanters together, I changed the lighting ever so slightly and the next render was ok, but it comes back sometimes for no reson, buggy,buggy,buggy....try a different glass texture, might help, ooooooo, wait a minite, ask FWTempest, he has those packs of glassware, if he's run into this type of thing in his renders.....

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:08 PM

It's weird. I've just rereated the scene, with two radials at the same setting and the same glass texture and it's fine.! I have a load of FWTempest's glassware. I'll try with that as well. LSD, I like your idea, but now that I can't reproduce the problem, I'll save that idea for next time.

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Rayraz ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:15 PM

looks like the soft shadow and glass bug. soft shadows and glass will only render well on premium settings :)

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:17 PM

Ah! Could be, I forgot to put softshadows back on when I created it again.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:19 PM

Yup, softshadow bug.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:21 PM

I wonder if that's on the DAZ fix list? I might have to post on the DAZ forum.

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FWTempest ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 8:35 PM

I've never seen it.. but then I don't have the patience for Bryce's soft shadows...

lordstormdragon ( ) posted Mon, 10 January 2005 at 9:27 PM

Aye, that's what it was! I remember it happening on my image of the man dead on his desk, and that one had loads of glass... But as the object count increased, I gave up on Soft Shadows in exchange for actually being able to render the thing in less than a year... And the four candles allowed enough interplay of hard shadows that it wasn't too bad...

draculaz ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2005 at 2:36 AM

it's not the texture, it's the light. if the sun is off all bets are off. drac (wise beyond his 22 years)

sackrat ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2005 at 5:21 PM

Or you could use the Zenith sunlight rig by madmax. Hi-res and Studio both give great soft shadows,.........of course at the cost of much higher render times.

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lordstormdragon ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2005 at 5:23 PM

Yeah, where is Madmax, these days?

Quest ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2005 at 8:37 PM

Ahhhhh! Interesting! I must remember that for the future...well, hopefully until Bryce 6 comes out.

GROINGRINDER ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2005 at 12:06 AM

I am glad I have not run into this bug. Somebody put forth a call to the brothels and plead with them to release Madmax to us.

Rayraz ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2005 at 2:33 AM

Madmax, yea I remember him! He made some really cool stuff in here, we learned quite a few little things from that guy. I wonder where he went off to...

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2005 at 6:21 AM

Is his homepage still there? I tried a search but couldn't find him. But I can't remember his exact screen name.

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sackrat ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2005 at 6:29 PM

Wasn't it madmax_br5 or something like that ? Or is that another madmax ?

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2005 at 9:28 PM

Bryce 5.5 Beta-testers have listed this problem to DAZ. AgentSmith

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