Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=864593

Hmmm... Outstanding Post Work, is probably more to the point. The image is first class but it ain't Poser, it's mainly Photoshop. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but not what I'd call a great example of outstanding Poser work.

revised my last post.... true... alot of postwork didnt consider that...poser only does so much - postwork really brings out the hidden quality of the image.

Wow, toshibasan, Well thanks for the link-- I'd not seen this guy's work before and it is excellent. The funny thing is that I think he's doing exactly what Larry Weinberg thought people would do with Poser, when he created it. . .remember the artist maquette guys in Poser 1, 2 (and its still in there, somewhere). Early Poser, or early Poser running on a 100 Mhz computer with a 512k of memory only could do so much-- the huge texture and bump maps of the present weren't even a gleam in anyone's eye. So, as I recall, the early idea was very much of an artists posing and shading tool. . .one of the hardest things for a traditional artist doing paintings of people is to get sizes right, particularly when the perspective is extreme, as it it is in this image. All a very long way of saying that, to my way of thinking, "Archangel Gabriel"'s images are very true to the spirit of what Poser was intended for, in addition to being very striking, Another Rosity regular who works similarly is "Voodoo". . .

...Photoshop 7... Don't leave home without it!...

SWAMP

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I don't leave home without PSP8...thank you very much. Maybe if more peeps postworked their images we wouldn't see poke thru/skin-body part breaks/items floating etc. Bravo - to post work & those that excel at it :)

Swamp, thanks for posting that. Poser 5 was already out by the time I found Poser, so I've never seen that. Did they really call it "Fractal Poser"? And were there any fractals involved?

Attached Link: http://www.billsienkiewicz.com/

Thanks for the notice Toshiba, I'm glad you like what I do, feeble as it may be.

And Yes, I'm from the school that Poser is a Tool, not a means to an end. I'm very much a proponent of using any and all available tools to create images.

I'm from the Bill Sienkiewicz School of illustration. Although how I can mention his name in the same sentence as me is another matter. I've seen him reviled because his work is not 'Pure' illustration. He uses traditional tools as well as photographs, photocopies, rubber stamps, distorted figures, slopped ink, detailed pencil work and minimal scratching. All on the same page. Some comic fans hate him. I see him as a visionary and take my cues from him as well as Alex Ross, Neil Adams, Johnny Romita and all the other greats the gave me the inspiration as a kid to dick around with this stuff in the first place.

I've included a link for those interested.

Thanks for the kinds comments
Daniel

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"And were there any fractals involved?" Well if there were, Im sure they weren't hurt or abused in anyway. The brand name was Fractal Design. I really don't know that much about the history of Kai,Fractal Design,and MetaCreations,but I think Fractal Design was just a division of one of the other parent companies. Actually I didn't get into Poser until version 3,but I have the original Painter (now Corel Painter) and that was called Fractal Painter. Painter and Poser are cousins... A little feature not many know about is when you use the sketch render mode in Poser, you can export that as a Painter script. Play that script in Painter and it paints/draws your scene...pretty cool. Even more OT reminiscing about Posers roots is I have this program from MetaCreations called Canoma. Take or get some photos of interiors, buildings or entire citiesopen them in Canoma then draw simple objects around them,and they map themselves around and become an obj.file. Very simple to use..a little rough around the edges (like Poser) and has that odd Poser looking UI,but is fantastic for use with Poser and has got to be a mind-blower for animators. Unfortunately after the first version Adobe bought it and has it buried somewhere, but I hear you can still find it on some of the auction sites (even some user groups are still around for it). SWAMP

"And Yes, I'm from the school that Poser is a Tool, not a means to an end." So am I, believe it or not. If the idea is to get the image out there, then you certainly do rock and I salute you. Poser as a means to an end is a lot of fun for me because I learn more about the software that way. Then again, if I have a job to do I'll use anything and everything to get the final image; my customers don't give a rodent's posterior about how I created their visuals. My pickiness was due to the "Ouststanding Poser Work" statement. "Outstanding Work" is a better description; you're a very skilled artist, AG, and it's a pleasure to view your work.

Thank you :)