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I'm afraid to go view the Gallery. I'm afraid to check out the Hot20. Drawbridgep's cruiser2 model is like six billion primitives all booleaned together without a texture based family group in sight and I need to adjust them. Drac's putting 'master' in front of peoples names. It cold outside and I cant smoke in the house. I have ten free gig on an 80 gig hard drive and everythings running slow. The project I'm rendering now is on pass three or so and looks like it might be done next week sometime. Making everything glass may not have been the brightest move I made. I'm wondering if pulling one of the 512Mb ram chips from this cpu and putting it into the dead cpu, then network rendering the picture would be faster, but it's about halfway done now. A company (DAZ) which has made all it's money by selling add-on products for a program (Poser), and has demonstrated a belief they profit comes from add-ons (see V3 & M3 now 100% off), has purchased Bryce (which was dead in the water). Yet every time someone asks here about interest in commercial products for Bryce, they get crucified. I had a conversation with one site administrator who won't be adding a Bryce section to their site thanks to our 'hospitality'. Bryce needs support that it won't get just because you love it, thats why it's still where its at. Valuable resources have been lost, and will continue to be lost because some people feel its better to yell and scream about ideas they don't like instead of just getting over it. SAMS3D posted a few threads ago that they have a work bench available for sale at their site (great bench by the way), no one said a thing. (course they post a free item a week, so they may no be the best example here, but it was recent.) Pumeco posts a picture complimenting drawbridgep on his model and gets jumped about PRO-RENDER (note the caps). Jocko500 has about 20 friends who vote for every picture he posts, so he's usually in the Hot20. Orbital has about 80 people who like his work and vote for his pictures. Daily now (it used to be weekly, did we lose the calendar?) Jocko's been attacked for being in the Hot20, but when Orbital has 5 pictures there (that's a quarter of the Hot20, 0.25 for those of you on the decimal system) he gets a "great job, way to go" thread started. I'm not comparing the artists or their art, just the response. AgentSmith and Zhann have both said that the Hot20 issue has been addressed and a new feature is coming soon, the issue has been getting addressed for sometime now, and still we can't just wait and see, must bitch now. My new born baby is being a new born baby so I'm typing this one handed, spellcheckers going to love this one. I have about $17 left over from the V3 refund vouchers and I've found something I want for $20, I've decided to wait until next month when I get the $5 PC voucher and get it then. (<--sign of maturity) I need to move the freebies I've downloaded to cd, but they're not organized now, so if I move them, I'll never find them again. The google event horizon n. The point at which it is quicker to locate and re-download something off the internet than find it on your hard drive. 404phobia n. The fear that it won't be there. When did we become a group of knowledge hording perverts? If you need help, ask. If you label a post nudity, put nudity in it. No, I dont plan to respond to anything said in this thread. Yes, I made it difficult just to piss off those people who would get pissed off. Words not found by spellchecker (excluding names) booleaned cpu cd google.

Message edited on: 01/27/2005 05:07

You sound a bit stressed, take a deep breath, release, have drink.....things will get better....=) Interesting image...;]

Message edited on: 01/27/2005 05:23

Wow...lol. (Decafe and some valerian root. ;o)) "AgentSmith and Zhann have both said that the Hot20 issue has been addressed and a new feature is coming soon, the issue has been getting addressed for sometime now, and still we can't just wait and see" Some fyi; The Hot20 won't be changed in any way. Zhann and I are just going to be adding an extra facet to being able to see great Bryce art. It's just a little Bryce experiment, it won't be site wide. AS

Okay, relax! Take a deep breath! Mmmm____hahhhhhDo as I do, ware a safety belt, then laugh, dont give yourself a hernia! Hehehehehehehehe........................it's all for fun!

Heya x.

You raised some interesting issues in there ... and I hope the caffeine gets flushed out of your system soon ;)

Yeah, bryce and merchanting/commercial stuff is an interesting thing - there have been a few threads by several people about selling things or the like and the response has been "mixed" from quite a few different quarters.... and not just on this site I seem to remember reading (but I don't think everyone's been crucified).

About a week ago, or maybe two, I saw three of the four featured products on the front page of rosity were for bryce (and I even mentioned this to AS I seem to remember who was waiting for the mistress of cats to come into chat). So, whether it was just random clustering or not, I don't know, but it was there... and I'd only ever seen about one other bryce product on the front page before, ever. As he said, people are waking up to the potential of the bryce market, and it does seem to have only been a recent thing.

Also, in the last couple of months we found out that Brycetech is making a DVD (I presume its a for sale thing, as he's probably going to put a hell of a lot of time and effort into it and make it damn impressive) and there's going to be the "master" tutorials that Daz are going to be selling, so I think we're already well on the way to becoming a lot more merchant oriented.

Will it be good or bad... honestly I don't know, but it'll surely be a ride ;)

Message edited on: 01/27/2005 06:08

DAZ Masters Series - Imho, looks great to me! AS

It's NOT 6 billion! Maybe 5 and a half.

clarifying - edit - I was referring to the general commercialising aspect, not the tuts or the dvd, when I said "is it going to be good or bad". I have great faith that the tuts and the dvd are going to be good.

Who's doing the masters tuts - I think Rochr is doing one, and I presume Orbital and Darlisa would also be doing them, or is that a daz secret? I can't remember them saying who was involved, but that could be because they didn't lol. Either which way, I would expect them to be pretty interesting reads.

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xenic, if it wasn't you i would have said one word: PARAGRAPHS!!!!!!!!!! but since it's you, and you said some really intereting and true things, all i can say is... master there, i said it :P drac (love you long time)

They had mentioned in their (DAZ) forums about Rochr and Orbital, I'm not sure about Darlisa. They are far more than just a read, I think they'll be great. AS

Yeah I remember them saying that they'd include scene files as well.

I take that back...I think Bryan B. mentioned that here at Renderosity. I have those bookmarks somewhere.... Yes, the entire scene, mats, and notes, and a walkthrough tutorial, etc. AS

• vague memories of a screenshot of a great hall or something in one of those threads...maybe the DAZ thread......*

yup...;o)

Xenic: One word (other than paragraphs): Scotch!

UUUrk.. how about making some spaces in your text!? I'm not going to read that compact mass of text :)

x, did'nt bother to read, but read the comments, my word is: VODKA

Everclear...210

have a long island iced tea.. neat.. with everything measured as one shot...

210? 200 is the max, but actually, if you open Everclear up, it dilutes to 195 due to absorbing moisture from the air..;) Another useless factoid from unk' Pakled..;)
Wow, that was the verbal equivalent of fruitcake, dense, but long-lasting..;) give your child some time to develop a personality, and suddenly the Hot 20 won't be as important as it used to be. And you won't need caffiene, just wait until teething..;) take care..

@Pakled: "the verbal equivalent of fruitcake" Does this mean that I have to forward this to my in-laws next christmas?

All I can say is thank goodness, I didn't go into a chatroom while this little episode was happening with you xenic. I have renewed faith in my decision to not bear any more children. The stress would kill me at my age, lo. Hope you have found some time to breath again, relax and don't drink and hold a baby despite what everyone else here has been saying ;P

Definitely don't drink and hold a baby... you might drop your drink! :^)

Things are the way they are, or else they'd be different ! Massive quantities of Sedatives.

I warned him about the sleep deprivation of new parenting. No one listens to me. (sigh...)

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HOLY COW XENIC101....... Take a valium and relax a little... life will lighten up my friend. Lol. That is one hell of a paragraph. Too much coffee this morning and not enough sleep last night? 8) We are here for ya man if you need to unload. 8)

That is actually the funniest post I seen here for a loooooooongest time, way to go man, PIPE ON !!! :D

Message edited on: 01/27/2005 14:19

well, you could, just a meaty tome you got there..Valium, turns women into animals, and men into plants
-quote from someone, in the 70's..;)

I don't understand...lol...unless moderators have some crazy godlike powers that we don't know about... They could be reading our thoughts right now!!!

how did drawbridge manage it with no heading AND no message? 123 testing....wonder if this would work

well, it did, but doesn't seem to be how drawbridge dunnit.

I'm gonna guess he entered a space only in the subject line, but no idea how Zhann got in.

ebot..sends you the url... that's how she got in...

Thanks for the explanation!!

Nooo, Darlisa is not doing a Masters Series Tutorial ... I don't consider myself in that category. However, with almost 15 years of documentation QA, technical editing, and writing user manuals and requirements documentation, I am involved in the formatting and technical editing of the tutorials.