Kosaburo, has hair(s) for Mike and it's a free download...

Aye, this is Mikey 2. So the hair sucks that bad? (grins) I've used Kosaburo hairs before, and have all the female hairs. But doing a 'Rosity search brought back no results. Off to Rhino to model a new hair, I'm so sick of using other people's props, anyway...

Message edited on: 01/28/2005 18:28

Love that light. It's post or visible light? If I were him, I'd be resting against the wall. And probably slightly photosensitive, so prefers to be in shadows? Could be cool to just make him out in shadows?

The light is Bryce's true volumetrics. The glow effects you see come from a combination of KPT6 EQ, KPT5 Noize, and Flaming Pear Aetherize... I suppose I could put him in the shadows, but the point of this scene is also the volumetrics lights, which cast shadows through the bars and off Ben, our slave-boy. If I put him elsewhere, he wouldn't interrupt the lighting and cast cool shadows?

Fair 'nuff. I guess if he's trapped for that long, then maybe he likes to sit in the sun every second he can. The lighting really is phenoma.... phinom... wonderful.

Too bad the hair sucks, otherwise I'd be done with this atrocity!

Make him bald.

I like him in the lite.. gives that feeling of him holding onto the sun.. make him and the pillow dirty-ish.. they a bit too clean...

(nods) Aye, Drawbridgep, he CAME bald! His head was too shiny... More dirt...? There's never enough dirt in 3D...

Actually I think the hair looks pretty good :-) To me it's his back that looks a little off. I know that it would arch somewhat because he is in a slumped position, I just wonder if it would protrude that much. Don't get me wrong I really like this pic a lot!!! And I'm certainly no anatomy expert. So take it for what it's worth. I also agree that light is awesome :-)

I do not have any advice, but would be interested to see your hair modeling efforts in Rhino. Over at Poser Pros there are a few tuts and threads on Rhino hair modeling for Poser.

Aye, I could not find ONE SINGLE MIKEY hair online, so GG, like they say in South Park : It's ON! I wouldn't say I'm an anatomy expert, Hythshade, but from the 3D view in Poser, it seemed convincing enough? Funny thing about the human body is that it never really looks right... Like if you try to draw a hand, and then draw from a REAL hand, the REAL hand always looks fake? Make any sense? GG, modeling hair in Rhino is butter, but I'll most likely despise making the damn texture maps...

Funny thing about the human body is that it never really looks right... Like if you try to draw a hand, and then draw from a REAL hand, the REAL hand always looks fake? Make any sense?

Makes perfect since my friend. Good luck with the hair.

LSD: Do you know the Kozaburo hair is at Digital Babes? It wasn't clear from your posts. There's a link on the Web Ring top 15 list on the sidebar.

Further to Tjohn's post..koz's long hair, messy hair,long hair evolution and short hair evolution all come with mat poses to fit them staright onto mike.

Not trying to be picky, but his back is little bit bended un-naturally, simple postwork (like cloning or equal to that) can fix that, like in example above, sorry for altering your image, if you wish, I'll remove it...

Other than that, excellent work ! :D

LSD;

I wanted to tell you that this image is s*ite, but I won't 'cos it's good :-D

I also like the effect of it's lighting.

As for idea's, how about some sort of sybolic model on the floor, which I suppose he could have built from the bones out of boredom?

I dunno, I'm inspirationally challenged.

The volumetric light is superbly done, and the image has great potential. A few suggestions: The shadow pattern from the window bars indicates the light source is just outside; this isn't realistic for an 'infinitely distant' source like the sun. This could be easily corrected in a new render, but a downside to that would be a smaller, less impressive area of illumination in the image (both in the 'air' and on the ground). This throws up a compositional opportunity. Leave the light source where it is and have it not be the sun. Rather than Ben sitting there passively, have him reaching toward the strange light in wonder and hope. This would contrast nicely with the desolation of his surroundings, giving a religious type impression. With that in mind, reassemble the human bones into a skeleton and place that 'in the shadows' (replacing the scatter with general detritus). This would make the bones/skeleton a more obvious statement of a likely doom/destiny for Ben, as well as making it look less like Ben has been feeding on the remains of a cellmate. Enable soft-shadows. The hard-edged ones clash with the lovely soft light in the image, and scream '3D'. Maybe make the bars on the window thinner. The post-worked hair isn't too bad (a bit too contrasty for that part of the image, and a bit too groomed) but the biggest problem is that it doesn't cast a shadow. Ben's back and shoulders are lit as if his head were bald (as in the straight render). If you go for a 'ready' 3D hair rather than making one (or better integration of post), I recommend "Grace Lion Hair" by Quarker in the store here. It's very adaptable, and can be made to look bedraggled and unkempt. It'll be a purchase ($8.95) so you'll feel quite justified in using it in your image(s). It's fairly straightforward to fit to alternative figures, and the process will give you that feeling of involvement you desire ;-). I agree with the others about the back posture error. The butt area of Poser figures is quite tough to get right. It often remains persistently J-Lo when it's bent, and it's a challenge. You like a challenge... ;-)

I think the problem with the hair is that it defies gravity...the curl in it could go behind an ear but I don't see one there...the flow of it looks like it comes from his face, round his head and down the neck...hang some stuff straight down through that curved area and see what it looks like. I agree that the back needs to be convex rather than concave. The hand also looks not quite right. Having said all THAT.... The lighting and texturing are spot on...it will be finishing off the posing that makes or breaks it.

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great job with the volumetrics! my only picky-point are all the bones. i mean, even I would clean-up a little if i was stuck in there. maybe shove them more against the wall. love it though.

(grins at Everyone!) I guess my ebot lost this one, I had no idea so many people were responding...! All of these are great suggestions. I have been to DigitalBabes, and found nothing remotely Mikey-like. But since I'd already started modeling hair in Rhino, I just stopped looking... I won $10 from a little in-thread contest a few days back, I think I'm gonna go for PJF's idea. (by the way, PJF, it's good to see your name in here these days!) And Alvin, I don't mind at all... I needed help, and thank you for your idea, I agree completely... Only problem with enabling SS on the volume light is that it kills the volumetrics, completely. I DO like the idea of him not moping, but hoping... Can anyone tell I'm feeling isolated and lonely, these days? Thanks for all your support and help and ideas, my friends. Makes me feel good...