The model is fine, the finger position is not.....=) Zhann Bryce Forum Coordinator

Message edited on: 01/31/2005 22:24

Awww and i was going to call the image "Would you like to be a Poser Model" :)

Message edited on: 01/31/2005 22:36

;P

The model looks familiar - is it one of Teyon's?

No pogmahone this one was by Quinlor, made in Wings3d and textured in Poser.

Why not textured in Bryce?...just curious

Just out of interest, what's wrong with the finger position? I know it's not exactly polite but it's not obviously addressed to any individual.

Because he uses Poser 5 for most things he does. Only going by what he put on his site..I have no idea why anyone would want to use a silly program like poser in the first place ;)

@cambert, TOS

Message edited on: 02/01/2005 03:13

I was actually wondering which part of the TOS, Zhann. I had a quick re-read before I posted and couldn't find anything that excluded undirected impolite gestures.

Well, I don't want someone seeing that, and then emailing me with complaint, and then I have to put it up for other opinions and there's a possiblity that it may be found inappropriate, and then it will be taken down and then explainations have to be made, and a thread starts about why, and that gets heated and gets locked that starts another thread and everyone gets upset, and on, and so forth....so I guess I would be saving myself the future hassle....why deliberately provoke anyone if you don't have to.....=)

Amen to that. But the same possibility remains with being too restrictive, doesn't it? The long threads about "arbitrary unfair moderation" are just as dull to read, so I can only guess what they must feel like from a staff POV. Shouldn't art sometimes provoke? :-)

Art 'is' an interactive medium, and certainly if CD wants to post an image with the flip off, I won't stop him, I was just thinking ahead mentally about what 'could' result, doesn't mean it will, and I certainly don't want you to think I personally would have a problem with it, doesn't bother me one way or the other....

I'm sure it wouldn't bother you and might well bother others, as you say. Please don't think that I'm questioning your judgment or sensibilities. It's a rare pleasure to be able to converse about these subjects in a friendly and adult way :-) It's also important to know what can and can't be posted here. I was thinking more about the TOS and how, by regulating it, it allows the depiction of violence. If depictions of, say, violent rage are allowable then it would be strange if CD's image of grumpiness/annoyance wasn't. I recognise that there are grey areas where staff need to judge images on a case-by-case basis: that seems perfectly right to me. But I would be concerned if the boundaries of those grey areas were set too widely. I would think that it's in the interest of staff to be able to say to a complainant, "The TOS are clear and there's nothing in that image that breaks them," than give away hostages to fortune by expanding the grey area. Otherwise the portrayal of anything negative become proscribed, and you can't challenge something in art without portraying it. Anyway, enough of the philosophising, it's coffee time. Tell me how you like it and I'll IM you some :-)

Bedtime for me.....see you in the pm....

"It's a rare pleasure to be able to converse about these subjects in a friendly and adult way :-)" Amen to that!

I think it's a shame that Zhann hasn't noticed that the model is severly disabled and is only able to indicate the number '4' by extending one finger.....tsk! Of course he could have use the other hand but we all know that most folks are right-handed. Not very PC, Jan! ;-)

One might want to consider moving beyond the type of artistic expression one normally finds scrawled on bathroom walls. :^) And as we used to say in high school, you have to have the equipment to back up that gesture in order for it to be meaningful. :^D