firstly, have any of you read the book "The Lord of the Flies"? if so, do you know of any GOOD things that come out? or what 'optimistic' views that may be applied to socity? that being said can any of you explain to me how to make a simple glass bottle in wings? your help is greatly appricated SC

I'm not sure the book was written to present any "optimistic" views of society. I think the point was we all are evil at least to a certain degree. Now, I would go about making a bottle by cutting up a cylinder into a whole bunch of parts and magnetically radial scale the the upper part until it looks right then intrude the top face to hollow it out to the desired thickness.

can't top that..;)

The book didn't have a optimistic view of society, actually the contrary, it exposed that civilization is a very thin veneer, and that in a survival situation will crumble easily, exposing the basic animal element of which humans are composed....

They came up with a cool chant on their own. "Kill the pig! Spill the blood! Basher it!" Heheheh.

They made me read "Lord of the Flies" in school. I thought "What the hell it's not Shakespeare." It wasn't "Mac Bolan" either.

i have to write a paper on its "optimistic views to socity"

compared to what?..;) The whole point of the book was how easily society could break down..;) Maybe it shows the innate desire of the masses for order..;)

**i have to write a paper on its "optimistic views to socity" ** Could we have the exact question, rather than your interpretation of what 'they' mean by the question?

If I ever go back to school, I will definitely NOT pursue any course that requires me to waste my time reading fiction.

i read it in school too. let me see boys got stranded on island and a pilot drops out of the sky some fat boy got roasted I was wondering why there are no women in this book? flies isnt that another word for zipper that explains alot. :P

The exact question is "Some readers have found 'The Lord of the Flies' to be optimistic about socity in spite of the boy's regression into savagery. Take this point of view and justify it."

lol, you'd wonder who those readers might be. Hitler? Pol Pot? Saddam? Long long time since I read it, but I suppose you could say that one message of the book (far as I can remember) is that human beings are social animals, and want to be part of groups, and will manage to form groups and survive in all sorts of adverse circumstances. One way of strengthening a group is to have a common enemy, or to pick on members who won't conform. Apart from that I don't remember enough about the book to comment. Maybe someone who read it more recently will contribute an opinion?