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Subject: Reflect and Refraction a hand of Glass- Poser5

Mec4D opened this issue on Feb 07, 2005 · 45 posts
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Mec4D ( ) posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 10:40 PM · edited Thu, 06 February 2025 at 5:03 AM

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I play around with the reflect, refraction and translucene shader nodes and got some interesting effects. Renders done without any transparency. If you wish to see the settings and little trick here regarding the true reflections let me know.

Cath

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JenX ( ) posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 10:42 PM

ooh...that looks great :D If you're willing to share settings and tricks, I'm willing to learn :D

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Mec4D ( ) posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 10:45 PM

oki doki give me a 5 min :D

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JenX ( ) posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 10:47 PM

w00t!!! I have more stuff to do play with tomorrow :D Thanks!

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iamonk ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 12:09 AM

I'm listening.

Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 12:15 AM

Attached Link: Reflection Refraction a ball of glass TUTORIAL

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I will tell you see is better :) click the URL above, the first tutorial is about the reflections. I made the same way with the glass effect in the first post. Here I used ball to get it working faster for the tutorial, my english is simple so I hope you get everything right, just follow the material setting. Cath P.S if the screen is to big for user with 800x600 you can use right click with your mouse and reduce the screen size

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PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 12:22 AM

I'll have to play with this after I take on the candle translucence effect since I've gotten off to a slow start with the ears :)


Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 12:33 AM · edited Tue, 08 February 2005 at 12:35 AM

Is ok Jeremy :) Nice to see you work on! P.S the nice effect of the glass you can get using another image maps for the big ball. replace the mini ball with a prop or what ever you wish.

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 1:02 AM

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more example and what you can do :)

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JenX ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 4:44 AM

Absolutely brilliant! I'm off to play :D

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Tiny ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 6:15 AM · edited Tue, 08 February 2005 at 6:22 AM

Wonderful examples and tut! Thank you! :o) Oh, and can one save the tut to disk somehow? Always need to go back to tuts now and then. Don't want to go searching on the net every time. May be a year before I need it again.

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 7:14 AM

Attached Link: Save me on your Hard Drive

CLICK ON THE LINK AND SAVE TARGET AS TO YOUR HARD DRIVER. Thank you I am happy you Like this. :) Cath P.S when you open this tutorial in your own browser click on F11 to get the full screen mode.

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stewer ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 7:56 AM

Attached Link: http://www.runtimedna.com/messages.ez?forum_id=28&Form.ShowMessage=111049

Don't foget my trick on how to get more realistic reflections and reflections through a fresnel effect. -Stefan

Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 8:07 AM

Thank you Stefan!! looks great I go to check out this trick!! Cath

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:01 AM

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The plastic effect is top Stefan! I got already idea where I can use it, thank you very much!! I changed some parameters of your idea removed Refract node and what I got? nice? I set the quality of the reflection very high but you can get it under 1.0 so 0.2 will ok too.

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:09 AM

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Red Glass :)

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:13 AM

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another funny surface :)

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Khai ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:21 AM

damn it never occured to me that this method would work in P5.. we've used it for years in tS... but I thought it was just something you could do with the tS reflectance....

Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:25 AM

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but if you want to get the nice effect don't forget about the BIG BALL outside:) Here another brushed Gold or mat glass and settings

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:32 AM

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when you have enough then tell me lol

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:39 AM

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it still reflect the colors correct and interesting material

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:41 AM

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ideal for cars :)

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:55 AM

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something interesting to use it on your 3D eyeballs, I used here eyeball of Michael 2 :) I add the nodes to the eyeball not the eyewhite.

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 10:31 AM

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I love the effect in this one, I set the black ball as in the post# 22 In the Edge Blend I use a black Inner Color and not use the Specular here, for the true reflections on the ball I used the BIG ball with a window photo that simulate the room. I like this one as well :)

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Farside ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 4:55 PM

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 8:55 PM

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And here another image done using the new reflection nodes from the settings above. For the car surface I used : setting from post # 20 and # 22 Poser5 Fire-Fly rendering no textures. Thanks to pauljs75 for the free TerraSpeeder (car) to download in the renderosity free stuff. I hope you like this effect Cath

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nakamuram ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:01 PM

This and the tutorials on your website are great. Thanks Cath!!!

Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 9:08 PM

Thank you very much nakamuram :) I forgot to add that the reflection on the grund is from the BIG BALL that I used in the tutorial it reflect fragment of the Window the rendering time was 5 min. The BIG BALL is very important for the reflections so for ''inside'' as ''outside'' scenes. Thank you for your attention and if you have any question regarding my little presentation here please feel free to ask. Cath

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Mec4D ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 11:43 PM

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I have to show you one more render I just finished. I used reflections nodes for every material in this scene including the mouse, self mat plastic reflect sometime the color or light from other objects. no transparency was used. I hope it give you more inspiration in your artwork. te rendering time was 15 min Cath

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nakamuram ( ) posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 11:49 PM

How about surface reflections from a pool of water?

Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 12:19 AM

for water and any water surfaces outside studio, use the BIG ball with a picture from [outside] as I did in image above for the atmosphere of your scene. rescale the ground and see the setting of the reflection, use turbulence node for the waves, or animated bump maps for animations. If you use the not deep water you need to use refrect node also as in post #16 but as color under the Edge Blend use just white. You can also make it transparent a 50% if you set in figure :P :)

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Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 12:27 AM

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setting

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Tashar59 ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 12:55 AM

Great stuff your showing here. Nice to see you back and having some fun again.

Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 1:02 AM

Thank you beryld! I have very much fun for sure! Cath :)

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Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 4:38 AM

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the light that the glass take from is the atmosphere created using the BIG BALL our trick [HDRI] , I rendered the model on white ground [ not background] , the object take the light and reflection from the ground plane and the BIG BALL textures only and create very realistic effect on the surfaces without to use any transparency. The material setting for this model was take from post # 16

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Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 4:43 AM

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here is real HDRI illumination effect by HDRI Studio, as you can compare I created the same effect of the glass in Poser5 without special plugin, Poser5 is not that stupid as everyone outside the community think.lol

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Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 4:51 AM

I will make today new HDRI maps for inside studio so you can check out and render a new scene that I will upload for you.

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stewer ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 7:00 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2073866

Cath, you may be interested in a thread we had earlier about car paint shading, also including some HDRI trickery.

Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 10:35 AM

Stefan, excellent!!! spare some time! I go to test out .. thank you very much! Cath

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Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 10:53 AM

Stefan it works perfect! if used speciall for one object, is quick trick, I made it much more simple, take the light colors from the image, it blend great together with the 3D ground so I am very happy you show me this trick :) More renders about I will show after my dinner :)) P.S I made jsut animation, it is just excellent!

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PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 5:26 PM

Cath, I have a silly question... Are you using the ball prop that comes with Poser 5 or one that you made in another program. I'm asking because the ball prop in my poser props doesn't appear to be perfectly round.


Mec4D ( ) posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 10:47 PM

ah why silly? I used the high res ball from the Poser5 there you have 2 versions, if you don't have the high resolution use the smoth polygons option to get the poly round. Cath

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Tiny ( ) posted Thu, 10 February 2005 at 10:50 AM

Cath, I was at your site yesterday and read the tut. Today when going there I get only a blank page with a signatur on.
And the 'Save me on your Hard Drive' gives me an 'object not found' message.

Just wanted to check how big the outer ball was. Help?


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Thu, 10 February 2005 at 12:17 PM

Something like 1447%


Mec4D ( ) posted Thu, 10 February 2005 at 2:31 PM

Attached Link: Tutorials Index --------- click me

Haha in place of Mec4D I wrote renderosity check the index above, you can download from there the tutorials to your hard drive, just save target as. Cath

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