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Hi, I was visiting a friend's hobby games shop's new premises on Sunday and he has a big blank wall just inside the front door that he didn't know what to do with. I suggested that it would be an ideal spot to exhibit art. He asked me to look into the idea since otherwise its just going to be a big blank wall. So I thought I'd ask what people here thought of the idea. Printing wouldn't be a problem for anything up to A4 as I have a good quality ink jet printer and can get good results using high quality paper. Anything bigger and I know a professional printers that can handle it but that would be more expensive than me printing stuff. All artwork would be displayed in frames and it should be possible to do little cards like they have in art galleries with the artists name, contact details and the artworks name on. In terms of subject matter the artwork would need to be able to be displayed in a shop where parents and children are so artwork would need to be acceptable to a wide audience. I'm not certain how much interest there would be in sales. I know Dylan would probably be interested if a reasonable arrangment could be come up with that was fair to all involved. Anyway less of my blathering. Is this a good idea and would anyone be interested? Cheers Mark

Real World? What is it? Oh, probably you do mean the thing sometimes referred to as "outside" or "the place with the blinding light"... ;)

Not the light, please don't make me go outside in the daylight... Yup that would be the one. As opposed to the time I spend in front of these dread machines.

I think every artist would love to exibit but... there comes the idea of .. how to be paid?? How does the artist know how many items are sold?? Printing and all that is a good idea... but not on a personal printer.. and then comes the cost of the professional printer.. who is going to absorbe the cost??.. Many, many questions.. details to be looked into.

Well on the question of how many items are sold, as with for example trading through a web site's marketplace, a certain amount of trust would have to be involved between those involved. I can see several possibilites for making payments but in many ways that would depend on where the artist was and how they wanted to be paid. Paypal (or similar), direct bank transfer, cheques and store credit are all obvious possibilies. Printing on a well set up and maintained personal printer using good ink onto high quality paper stock will produce good quality prints for the small quantities I would expect to be involved at least to start with. I know of several artists who use home printing to produce the prints they sell. I also know and regularly use a professional printers, the shop is above a printers (not one I've used) and there are three other printers and reprographic shops within 10 minutes walk of the shop so prices could be investigated. I'd suggest that the cost of printing be taken out of the sale price before any "profit" is divided between those involved but as with payments.

I think it is a good and generous idea. :o)

Once upon a time I was surviving as fine arts artist and what I've learned from that period was to take every opportunity to exhibit your work. Libraries, hall ways, cafeterias, anywhere. Until one is widely known and accepted one must work hard at getting there. Sometimes with less profits sometimes with more.

So, to get it started, I'd be willing to submit some work. We can be in touch via email or IM to set details.

Good initiative!

Hi Mark! I find this a very nice idea and would be happy to share my works if you like any of them. Take a look into my gallery and let me know if you'd want a high resolution render of any picture. However, I would not be able to sell those because I'm not sure which items I used in their creation and whether there is a restriction on them for commercial use. If well received, future images might be created with regard to allowed usage, though.

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Be very wary of investing lumps of money with digital art. I ploughed a lot of dosh into my stuff for the last couple of years, had two shows in Bristol, UK. One using Vue stuff & the other with Carrara 3 images. Didn't get my money back, don't think the world is ready to except digital created images as proper art. I was aiming at the high end of the market though, you may have more luck in a games enviroment. I have just plonked all my work over to Zazzle, so dealing with posters now. You can see more about the shows on my website.

Hope this has been some help.

Rokol.

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Some of my background images are used by addiktive247 games, see link.

I know exactly what you are talking about Rokol.
I had an exhibition at an art gallery 1995. All was done with Painter so it wasn't even 3D but most people were very doubtful because it was made with computer. Finally I brought my whole work station to the gallery and had people try them selfs. Had a A3 Wacom drawing pad. It gave a bit more understanding but no great sales. (Of course they might not have been that good... :o) )

Apparently it is still not time for digital art. :o(

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Tiny, Yeah I tried all sorts of things & they seem to think you are cheating by doing it on a computer. I have been a creative since the 80's, making money with it too. But when I changed over to 3D software stuff a few years ago it didn't seem that I was going to be taken seriously. I actually priced my pictures almost at cost, to supposedly get them seen. Still nothing! Those ones above in the poor quality photo are pixel perfect & huge, took days & days to render. Got to admit my work is a bit weird & in yer face, that's my danceclub decor days influence, but the Venues are highly respected on the cicuit. The Show above is where 'Banksy' the reknowned graffiti artist had his first show, so some kudos! It may have been down to the fact it was Xmas. God knows! Had to have a rant as it is now time to go back to sewing for me, gonna design some kites & hopefully make a living out of it. Glad I got that off my chest!! Rokol.

Glad I got that off my chest!!<< LOL!

Your pictures look great. And yes, Freud would have loved to analyze those. ;o)

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Matching the subject matter, price and venue is probably quite important. Much that I hate to say it, because I like your work Rokol, I suspect that images that are a little less abstract may go down better in a game shop although if you could get them associated with a game they might be hot sellers. I know that some of the art from CCGs sells very well and some of that can be quite abstract. Anyway anyone who is interested in this can e-mail me on impworks@merseymail.com (please don't send pictures as attachments)