Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=909900

I'd guess bazooms, but will eagerly await the results of your study. ;)

LOL! I think your "steam room" series is the first time I've seen so many images ranked less than "excellent." One gets the feeling people are disappointed after they click on the thumbnail or something. ;-)

I like being ranked less than "excellent." It shows that perhaps viewers are putting thought into their response, instead of just being "nice". Now if only they'd express their reason for their ranking.

I don't visit the galleries much but I figure you'd get more hits from women on a man's tush than on his chest. And more on a woman's breasts from men than on her butt. On the surface, it's just a matter of attraction. But it really goes back to our basic instinct to reproduce.

Attached Link: 600+ hits in 10 days

::snerk:: Caught that one over at the other R site. Which is why I ain't a'gonna comment on it here. ;-)

Wolf359: You know my name (it's Pookah69, not Citizen). If you don't like my silly tricks, I invite you to bypass my postings in the gallery. And thanks for your instruction on how to categorize my work in the gallery, but I think I'll decline to follow it.

Good luck in your quest for gallery hits anyway :-)

In my experience, Boobs Kick Butt. But my biggest Hits are pretty girl's faces.... LinkDink

I don't know if this is what's going on here.....so these remarks are possibly OT to this thread........

.......but "gotcha!" type gallery thumbnails irritate me.

"Gotcha!" thumbnails are intended to "teach them a lesson" by baiting the trap with the allure of one thing, and then handing out a lump of coal instead.

Oh, yeah.....that's such an original idea. And it really serves to "teach them a lesson", alright.

After they've been properly taught, then they'll be so ashamed of themselves that they'll never look at another pin-up again. For sure.

Works every time. Every, single time.

If one is opposed to a thing, then one should stand flat-footed, and say so outright. One cannot "trick" others into agreeing with you. Nor can one "trick" others into seeing the error of their ways. People have to be convinced of something in their own minds. Otherwise, tricks merely comprise a self-indulgent exercise in ego-stroking on the part of the trickster.

"In my never-ending (and totally shameless) pursuit of gallery hits" Well, at least you were honest about it. I'm not sure why it's so important to get hits or comments but to each his/her own. I know this, if your art is good people will view it. Once they see a pic you've made that they like they'll look for more of yours, regardless of the thumbnail. Why not just shrink the entire image and use that as the thumbnail, then you've covered all bases once and for all. If this is a hits thing then just come right out and make the topic "please view my gallery, I need some sort of validation" and be done with it. Myself, I'd rather get no comments than to have to drum them up using thumbnail tricks or posts in the forum. I'd doubt their sincerity if that were the case. Good luck with whatever it is you're seeking.

I just see Pookah69's experiments as being a bit of fun, a bit of tail-pulling to see who jumps. Amusing how many people are happy to leap, IMHO. There are so many things in th world that are so much more worthy of being annoyed than "misleading" thumbnails. bonni

There are so many things in th world that are so much more worthy of being annoyed than "misleading" thumbnails. Very true.....but a dripping faucet is still annoying....even if more serious matters are going on elsewhere.

Point taken. ;-) bonni

Well then I'd like to request a particular experiment. We've determined that some breast thumbs draw attention, some do not. Why might that be? Artist name? Size of breast? Nipple color or appearance? How about an in-depth study on what lighting or effect is best on a breast thumb when it comes to drawing attention. Perhaps even turn it into a breast thumb tutorial. Inquiring breasts would like to know. ;)

It's not so much the misleading thumbnail itself that's irritating.

It's the intent to "teach them a lesson" that grates. Along with a subtle assumption of smug, smirky superiority.

If one thinks something, then one should say it up front.

IMHO.

I'm with Bonni. I don't think he wants hits, or to teach anyone a lesson. He's just having a bit of fun. Self-indulgent it may be, but fun usually is. That's kind of the point of fun. ;-) It's not like he's posting them in the pinup gallery, after all. If he were, there might be cause for complaint.

I don't think he wants hits, or to teach anyone a lesson. He's just having a bit of fun. As I stated in my first post in this thread, I don't know what the actual intentions are here. Hits, fun, or "teaching lessons"......it's all one to me. But I've seen enough people using "gotcha!" thumbnails to inspire me to take this little opportunity to deride the practice.

"...smug, smirky superiority..." "...he's just having a bit of fun..." Your interpretation of my motives says more about you than about me, since you can't possibly know what my real motives are. Though I confess that I enjoy evoking both irritation and kindness, in the end I'll take kind-hearted people over irritable ones any day. (Xenophonz, I realize that you are not necessarily a fundamentally irritable person, but merely that my actions have irritated you.) Pookah69

Your interpretation of my motives says more about you than about me, since you can't possibly know what my real motives are. Though I confess that I enjoy evoking both irritation and kindness, in the end I'll take kind-hearted people over irritable ones any day. (Xenophonz, I realize that you are not necessarily a fundamentally irritable person, but merely that my actions have irritated you.)

I've said it before....but just in case if I didn't make the matter clear.....until such time as you choose to inform us of your motives, then I haven't a clue as to what those mysterious motives might be.

Although an implied desire to evoke a reaction -- any kind of reaction -- appears to be included in the mix.

If so, then you've succeeded.

I also like the "180 degree Reverse-Rotational Psychoanalysis" which says that "your reaction to my ploy shows me what kind of a person you are".

Pardon me while I triangulate myself over the fray.........it's always best to view matters from above the rest. In this way, one can see the tops of everyone else's heads, and thus can know precisely what they are about.

shrug The ploys themselves give hints, too.

As for my being irritated -- I am irritated by attempts to show others the error of their ways through the use of misdirection. If for no other reason than the fact that this tactic is about as effective as sharpening knives with rubber. It doesn't work.

I despise tactics that don't work.

But your actions irritating me? Nahhh.....it's all in good fun. Or so I've been told.

The pursuit seems harmless enough.

;-)

Xenophonz, I realize that you are not necessarily a fundamentally irritable person How do you know that for certain? For your information, I am an irritable old dog on the front porch. Get too near my food bowl, and I'll turn nasty.

;-)

Your interpretation of my motives says more about you than about me True. And I'm someone who enjoys a bit of fun and has been known to pull tails to see who jumps. ;-) I still don't think you're doing it to be deliberately political or making some big social statement. I mean, I guess you could be but what's the point. Oh, wait! Maybe you're trying to find out the true nature of people who frequent these forums! Now you know that I have a quirky sense of humor and mischief (like that was any secret) and that Xenofonz is a crabby old fart (well, I'm assuming old, since he used the "old dog" reference). :-) Okay, so, you gonna let us in on what you're really doing? bonni

I'm assuming old, since he used the "old dog" reference)

"Middle-aged" is closer to the truth these days.

Okay, so, you gonna let us in on what you're really doing?

It's almost 2:00AM here.

I'll read all about it in the paper tomorrow.

Along with the latest on the Michael Jackson trial.

Burning issues of our times.

I'm someone who enjoys a bit of fun and has been known to pull tails to see who jumps

That's because you are kind.

Personally, I tend to throw large, sharp-edged rocks into the bushes, and then see who yells............

I hope that things are going well in Aussie land, elizabyte. Goodnight, my friends. XENOPHONZ has left the room

Personally, I tend to throw large, sharp-edged rocks into the bushes, and then see who yells............ I've been known to pour scalding sarcasm on people and see who shrieks the loudest, but I try to refrain from letting my snarky side get the better of me (it's just a promise I made to myself a while back). bonni

Do a compare shot: one Tushy & one Bazooms ^ I bet the Bazooms will win hands down. I did a headshot of Vicky & it's getting less hits than my one of Aiko in full body. :)

Neither tits or butt necessarily give best hits. Too direct a thumb may scare people off, in fact. Something that shows a cutout part of a nude/semi nude body, a nice curve, or something that looks a lot like cleavage, a flaring thigh or a nice waist - all sorts of things. There is no hard, fast rule for this. In fact, good lighting and color in the thumb also means a lot - logically, since it is an indication of quality and less chance of hitting a dud image. :] Fish

Okay...since you've asked (and thanks for expressing interest!), here's my motive: To connect with other intelligent, insightful souls on this forum with whom I can engage in debate, thereby learning more about them and about myself. Connecting with people in a meaningful way--emotionally, intellectually, physically-- is the only thing of value in life, of this I am convinced. I know too many people who have amassed great wealth, and are among the most miserable of souls. This forum posting, as well as the posting of my images and their accompanying thumbnails, provide me an unusual means for revealing who I am, and through your response, who you are. I've enjoyed connecting with both xenophonz and elizabyte, (and others). I suspect I'd enjoy having coffee with elizabyte. I suspect xeonophonz and I might continue to antagonize each other in person, but perhaps in some weird, mutually constructive way. Thanks!

It depends on the group you are targeting. Female boobies and tushes will garner more views by men, lesbians and bisexual females. Male nudity or semi nudity will get more hits from females and gay males. For some reason many men are so homophobic that they can't even look at an image of a nude male.

I've enjoyed connecting with both xenophonz and elizabyte, (and others). I suspect I'd enjoy having coffee with elizabyte.

Yes, elizabyte would most likely make an excellent coffee partner. Personally, I don't care for the taste of coffee. Tea, I do like. Which would fit right in down in Australia.

I suspect xeonophonz and I might continue to antagonize each other in person, but perhaps in some weird, mutually constructive way.

You did well, pookah.

I'd be happy to have some virtual tea with you sometime.

:roll eyes: Some people collect stamps, others collect hits. One collection has value, even years later. I'm sooooo thankful that I don't have to go into the galleries anymore. Part of my job was having to click on every single thumbnail even though I'd rather not reward tricksters for shabby ploys. There is a difference between being duped onto the wrong path and having to wallow through every single marker. Carolly

hauksdottir, seems you and I have disagreed before--clearly, we are on two different wavelengths. I too am thankful that you don't have to go to the galleries either--spares me your judgement on what I choose to post there. Comments like "shabby ploys" and "wrong path" add nothing to the conversation thread at this stage, but whatever floats your boat is good with me, I guess....well, maybe not. I will add nothing more to this thread, so if you need to get in the last word, feel free to do so.

The butt always garners more views for me...my two out of three of my highest viewed images have Buts in the thumbs...breast do well, buts do better...I view normally based on face.

OK, I'm completely confused. Maybe it's because I cliked the link and saw the whole image before the thumbnail. Where's the trick, what's the deception? The title says butt and there's a butt, so what (hey, it rhymes)? If the "trick" is you thought it was a female butt then you've been looking at too many pinups of the old East German women's Olympic team.

From me own communications with pookah69, I'd say he's a "good egg" and an artist of rare integrity and skill. You could say I have a lot of time for the gent. And he does deserve a damn sight more hits and comments.

Tits = hits, no doubt. It's got me thinking about an ass shot that looks like (at least in thumbnail) a boob cleavage pic. Could be an interesting idea to play with. Aiko 3 has a very shapely bum. :)

Remember the Benny Hill show? Do a render of two bald guys with their heads together. Then make the thumbnail a closeup of just the heads. It sure seemed to get a lot of attention when Benny did it.

Hehehe. Benny Hill got a lot of mileage out of "near nude" and innuendo.

So the buns were supposed to look like boobs? Go buy a pound of Land 'O Lakes Butter. Cut out the chest area of one of the Indian maiden pics. Take another one and place it so that her knees are showing through the cutout. Have fun.

Yes, elizabyte would most likely make an excellent coffee partner. Personally, I don't care for the taste of coffee. Tea, I do like. Which would fit right in down in Australia. We have both here. ;-) In fact, in Melbourne we now have both Gloria Jean's and Starbuck's, and Cafe Espresso (in the Borders Bookstores). Thanks, pookah69. For the compliment (I am a good chatty coffee partner, though I can be really bitchy when I'm in a bad mood and I'm not all that sociable on a regular basis), and for explaining your motives, which I find very interesting. bonni

I can see the mods have more deviants to root out. Clara, they've started drawin' morphodites now. Git mah shotgun.

:chuckle: Lemurtek, that's priceless. If I ever need to populate a world of imaginery islands inhabited by strange people (think classic Greek travelogues), I'll call upon you for help. Hmm... the Isle of Paranoia, where the natives are so afraid that they can only look behind them. Carolly

Thanks! Yes, ancient mythology is rife with possibilities. Hmmm, Morphodites, you say. Heh, stop it, you're gving me ideas! :) Regards- Lemurtek

Hmm, a woman like that would be fun to dance with, eh? ;-P bonni

But not after a good, strong Mexican or Thai dinner she wouldn't....... 0:)

Dancing? I'm still trying to figure out how she's gonna sit down! :) Regards- Lemurtek

Oddly, my most successful thumbnail on the Other Site shows a male, displaying none of the anatomical features one might infer from the name of this thread. But he's not human... It makes me wonder sometimes.