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Subject: Ecosystems and shadows question


Jcleaver ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:01 AM · edited Mon, 13 January 2025 at 7:11 AM

While browsing the gallery, I noticed a pic that used an ecosystem where the shadows seemed wrong. Is this common? I don't have a link to the pic I saw, as this is a general question anyway. Basically, the pic used an object as the ecosystem, and the shadows cast from those objects didn't seem to match the objects in the way I would have expected. I'll have to experiment when my copy of V5i arrives.



Phoul ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:07 AM

No problems with shadows. You can of course add more light and decide what they catch. Play with light is...infinite! (hum sorry) Please what is the pic you are talking about. It is always easier to talk and help with an exemple.


Jcleaver ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:33 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=917262

Here is the pic I was mentioning. To me, it seems the shadows of the mice tails don't quite match the tails. It could just be me, though.



Phoul ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:39 AM · edited Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:41 AM

Ah. It is a great picture by Robert! A master of Vue! There is no problem with shadows. May be Robert (in advance, sorry/apologizes Robert, again it is only my 2cents about one of your best picture) may be Robert add too much GI, I mean the sky dome is too big, but... but it is great like that. that is not realistic scene, isn't it?

That infinite ;-) The sun could have softness... or shadows could be done with shadow mapping... sincerely you'll can make what you want.

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Message edited on: 03/27/2005 08:41


Jcleaver ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:54 AM

I agree, I love the pic. Just noticing something that concerned me. I figured if a master had a pic with wrong shadows, that there just might be a problem. I'll have to look again. Easy to do, as it is in my favorite pics listing! Thanks for the reply.



Phoul ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:56 AM · edited Sun, 27 March 2005 at 8:57 AM

I am not agree with you. The shadows are not wrong. The cat is! Ever see a cat with a hat! ;-)))

Message edited on: 03/27/2005 08:57


Jcleaver ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 9:01 AM

OK, I understand. I am just trying to see how the light is interacting. On the left side and in front of the cat, there are a couple of mice where the tail is straight, but the shadow is curved. It could just be a trick of my eyes though. It very well could be that the shadow I am seeing doesn't go with the mouse I think it does. My eyes are getting old, after all!



aeilkema ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 9:03 AM

You may want to take a close look at the pics again, the shadows are definitely not corresponding the mice. It's not the first V5I I've seen this with, more of them do have shadow errors. Personally I'm not sure if it's a big deal, but they are there.

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DMM ( ) posted Sun, 27 March 2005 at 4:50 PM

The shadows look OK to me. Not all the tails are the same shape.


wabe ( ) posted Tue, 29 March 2005 at 12:50 AM

The point here maybe is is that you have a lot of light (and shadow) control. You can have lights that are correspondent only to specific objects and not to others. You can switch off the abibility to cast shadow - for specific objects or materials. I don't think there is an issue with shadows. If so all images would be affected, not only some specific ones that look a little weird. And i would have noticed that in my work as well - i work with Infinite now for a couple of months (beta testing) and haven't seen anything wrong. Ok, maybe because i am blind ... I think Robert should say a word or two to his image.

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Jcleaver ( ) posted Tue, 29 March 2005 at 7:44 AM

Well, I am making an appointment to get new glasses. It isn't a big deal, and I figure that shadows aren't a problem after all. It could be that there are multiple lights casting shadows. It just looked weird to me. The pic itself is a great image, and I hope that I can do 1/2 as well someday. Just trying to learn all I can before I get my copy tomorrow. (I'm excited, if you didn't know already!)



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