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I really wish E-On would do stuff like this too. I'm not DAZ's greatest and most loyal fan (got nothing against them either) and I'm for sure not trying to promote Bryce. But a sale at E-On once in a while would be great.... I like that about DAZ, they do crazy stuff once in a while. As a pc member Bryce 5 is only $33 today and tomorrow. Now $249 for Vue 5 or $599 for Vue 5 Infinite really sounds like a lot, doesn't it?

I'd love to see E-On run a real sale once in while, I'd love to see V5I for 40% off 8-)

Message edited on: 03/26/2005 15:08

Vue 4 (http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Products/vue4/) - $69 and has been for ages...maybe a fairer comparison with Bryce 5 too? Can't see any company in their right mind having crazy give aways 2 weeks after launch of their flagship product tho ;)

For ages yes, but only after Vue 5 came out..... I paid a lot more for it.....

"Can't see any company in their right mind having crazy give aways 2 weeks after launch of their flagship product tho ;)"

Me neither that takes E-On at least 3 or 4 years, but a cool introduction price would be great too. Even pre-ordering Vue 5 or Vue 5 Infinite doesn't bring you anything. With Poser you get a bonus pack, with TrueSpace (pre-ordering) you get a special price, with DAZ new stuff you often get 15% off and so on.

Message edited on: 03/26/2005 15:25

me too, but...
E-on only has ONE product really, and that's the Vue line, DAZ gets tons of sales traffic due to poser ~and~ many other folk who use Poser as an ADD ON, ie, Bryce, Vue and "serious" users too.

The price of software is really atrocious, MAX3D is a shining example of this, look at their EULA and sales setup, and why such are regarded badly, I'll say no more to avoid censure but you will find them bad versus competitors prices and from legal stand points in many nations. Just few politicians or legislators have the savy or guts to take such things to task.

Software app companies usually do have a problem: low volume sales. They do not sell millions of copies. Thus they usually charge inflated prices to recoup development etc. Another aspect is snobbery, you get an attitude of "oh it's expensive it must be good and everything else trash!"..which is a load of male-hairy-spheres ;)

Lightwave was looked down on at first by some, for being a trashy app used to make cheap sci-fi...ah huh.. Also look at Adobe Photoshop versus Paint Shop Pro...400 worth of difference there is ~NOT~ between them.

Cheaper, good quality apps, downloadable, with good customer relations are slowly but surely kicking the pants of the "Big Boys".

So end result is, E-on has to make profit, but the current business market in the field is still influenced by hyper inflated prices and lousy business practices..though a trend started by Bryce and others for cheaper more pleasureable tools, slowly erodes this. Couple of years back Lightwave etc dropped in price.

When the market becoems 90+% downloaded, with folk only buying manuals as physical goods, publishers will have even larger prfoit margins which MUST be ploughed into cheaper content. The music industry is dying not because of piracy but because folk are fed up with being ripped off, pathetic current content (because only cheap pap is being backed), new distribution tools and media players, and customers only want what they LIKE...the industry didn't realize this, or care, and got its ass bit.
Go read up about Sony and it's internal copyright problems/sales.

As more folk get broadband, more comfortable with PCs they will DEMAND cheap quality tools for use ont he PC, and to hell with the rip off prices and attitudes.
This means higher volume of sales, smart companies know this, downloadable full working versions of apps are a wonder for hooking new customers.

The majority of new customers will NOT be business users, they CANNOT afford 500+ for software that soon will take you only 5 to 10 minutes to download. A business expects high cost but high quality back up/help, costs also factor into snobbery/appeal/sales/financing.

E-on selling enjoyable to use, semi-professional product are in an expanding market BECAUSE of these factors.
It's something to think on ;)

Message edited on: 03/26/2005 15:35

A long time ago Borland brought Turbo Pascal to the market. The price was so low that it was almost cheaper to buy the product than to copy the manuals and the floppy disks! As a result, software piracy was a non-issue for Turbo Pascal. They quickly wiped out all PC based Pascal competition and made a fortune. And hundreds of thousands hobbyist Pascal programmers were very happy. I was one of them. Now I would love to see this business model put to use again!

I do remember that vaguely. I also remember learning Pascal at college, that's been a while. Borland is still around, so I guess it wouldn't hurt E-On to try something like it.