Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=almeidap

I need help with a thumbnail idea..the link just shows my gallery, the most recent pic was posted 24 hours after the one before that and so on and so on, look at the huge difference in the numbers...can someone show me what a better thumbnail would have been?

Thanks,
Peter Almeida

Message edited on: 04/18/2005 00:16

Yeah, a pair of tits. Really. The ones with the most views in your gallery feature boobies in the thumb. Also, your thumbs are too small. Make 'em 200 x 200.

Okay, well, here are a few thoughts. Take them for what they're worth. The thumbnails are small. You can make them up to 200x200, and I think that's more attractive to people at Renderosity than small thumbnails. They're also fairly dark, i.e., the colors seem pretty dull. There's not much there to catch my attention at all. Personally, I'm not in the least bit impressed by a bare bottom in a thumbnail (well, not a female one; I might look if it were a male bottom, just because you don't see that very often). Basically, what attracts my eye and mouse is a large, interesting thumbnail that is unusual enough to make me want to see what the picture is. As I said, take it for what it's worth. This is only my opinion and off the top of my head. :) bonni

Addendum - or a female butt. That seems to help your view count tremendously.

I don't understand people's panic over number of views to their gallery. It's not like the number of clicks generates any revenue. Post images because you like them. If people view them and like them, that's great, but it shouldn't be the primary reason for posting images in the gallery.

"Post images because you like them. If people view them and like them, that's great, but it shouldn't be the primary reason for posting images in the gallery." I have to agree, but then, that should be implicit in all my replies regarding gallery views. :)

Thanks and thanks, I agree on the "why" to post, not for views, but when you work on something a bit, you do want it noticed...or you really wouldn't post it at all, now would you? So if you're a "realist" who says you post just to post be really real because the only reason anyone really post is for their stuff to be seen. It comes off snotty and sarcastic and for that I apologize but I don't know any "nice way" to say what I said and really make my point. Thanks for the tips and comments. I do sincerely mean that!

Interesting point. I try to not read meanings into things posted here because it's not easy (fairly close to impossible) to tell, so I tend to take it at face value. My reasons for posting? Yes, to be seen, for sure. But really, I don't give a damn if 20 or 200 peeople see it. My most viewed picture on here is definitely not my best, either technically or artistically. I can honestly say I don't care. Perhaps I'm too egotistical for my own good. :)

There's been one or two threads recently on thumbnails -- I started one recently, and it's surprising what does work. In my gallery, it seems to be hands. But the size helps, and an image which looks good small. I've used grey-scale, high contrast, poster-like techniques; just go have a quick look.

almeidap, there is no need to get your feathers all ruffled. I was simply stating my opinion because I've seen a few posts such as yours expressing concern over the low number of views to some images. I guess I have a different mentality than most when it comes to art. I create things to please me and my eye, and no one else. If I like it that's all that matters to me. If someone else likes what I've done, that's just icing on the cake for me. However, in most cases I am open to constructive criticism because I believe that's how we learn and grow and get better in what we do in life. Now of course if I'm doing something for someone that I'm charging a fee for, then of course I'll care that they like it, after all in that case I'm a tool creating something for someone who can't do it themselves, and it's important to me that they get what they want. But if it's just art that I've done because I felt creative, all that matters is that I like it. Art is very subjective and you can't please everyone. The only person you can be sure of pleasing is yourself, and that's what I strive to do; please myself. If only one person looks at what I've done and has left happy, that's all that matters to me. I'd rather have 5 people look at my image and appreciate it for what it is, than 50 people click and quickly glance and move on.

I'm too lazy to make thumbnails. If they don't like the picture, they don't have to comment...

Attached Link: http://www.fullyregistered.com/

I agree with elizabyte that the colors could stand being brightened. They look kind of flat and muddy. You've got some variety with plenty of cheesecake type thumbs so I don't think that's a problem. People click for different reasons. I clicked on "Prelude: Who's there" because I like more realistic renders and I liked the look of the skin and yes the rather kinky outfit. "Who's Up 4 a Game?" - because the old cross and cleavage juxtaposition is always intriguing :-) "My Best Render" - because it's always interesting to see how people handle an underwater scene. The main problem I see is not so much with the thumbnails but the images themselves. I really liked all three, especially the little surprise in the last one but all of them look badly compromised by compression artifacts. Maybe my eyes are just tired but it looks like way too much jpeg compression. The mermaid for instance is very blurred. If that's the case, then you need to look at how to reduce the compression and still post a decent sized image that meets the Kb requirement. Perhaps someone else can comment on whether they see the same thing. I use a freeware jpeg optimizer (Interactive JPEG Optimizer) that works pretty well (link attatched) or maybe you just need to tweak the settings in your editor.