I've just got P5 and have linked my P4/PP runtime. However, I'm finding it a bit of a pain going from P4 to P5 when I need to. Can I copy P4 runtime content into P5 runtime or is this not feasible?

Hi barrowlass,

re: "Can I copy P4 runtime content into P5 runtime or is this not feasible?"

Yes ... BUT ... It may cause problems because of embedded links to other files, i.e., geometries, tesmaps, etc.

You might consider this.

Load the figures, props, whatever you want into the (Poser) studio from your PP library - now, switch libraries - save the figure, prop, whatever into the P5 library and Poser will save it with all the correct links in place.

Got too much "stuff"? ... Sorry, can't help you with that one. ;=]

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Best recommendation.. DO NOT MERGE DIFFERENT POSER VERSION RUNTIMES!!!!! Do a search here, and read about the MANY posts from people who cannot run P6 properly after merging the runtimes together. The same applies from P4-P5 as well. In case you didn;t get the message, DO NOT MERGE DIFFERENT POSER VERSION RUNTIMES!!!!!

what he said. I did that with P5 once and man, The prrogram's stability went in the toilet

Oops ... I forgot to mention problems caused by "duplicate file names" ... ;=[

Interesting. I don't doubt that merging runtimes is usually a bad idea, but my set up is such that not merging runtimes makes P6 unusable. I don't know why this is, but that ended up being what I had to do.

Also: do not install Poser 6 into the same folder as Poser 4 or 5. Poser 6 is a completely new program with it's own content- it is not an "upgrade" or a "patch" that should be installed on top of your existing Poser 4 or 5. For example, if you have Poser 4 installed in: c:graphics programsPoser 4 DO NOT install Poser 6 into the same folder. Instead, install it to: c:graphics programsPoser 6 And, similarly, install Poser 5 to: c:graphics programsPoser 5 Then, when you start Poser 6, you can easily "browse" to both your Poser 4Runtime and Poser 5Runtime folders because the different versions of Poser are in their own folders. --John

Some of the information in the rutimes, are preference files, n such that are not exactly the same between versions. What MAY work, is copying the later version on top of the older one, but I'd backup both first before attempting it. there really should be no reason why you can;t just use the "add runtime" feature in P6 or P5...

I have mine installed thus ... and everything (appears) to work just fine.

Curious (labs) ... no?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

P.S. They are all in the "Curious Labs" folder and I have seen no problems.

P.P.S. Edited to remove all nudity, violence, TOS violations, TOP SECRET information, links to pornographic stuff (because Doc knows that you don't have a pornograph to play that stuff on), and coffee stains left by NaySayGuy.

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Message edited on: 04/23/2005 13:04

I understand the linking. I linked a lot of runtimes in P5 and had no problem. But with P6, it just does not work correctly. Everything I try to load, it asks for the .obj file. It doesn't matter what I try to load. Now, I did remove any pref files and only merged the libraries. Keep in mind, and I am hoping I am not breaking any EULA here, but I have P6 installed at home and linking works. On my laptop, it doesn't. They are both set up exactly the same way. It's not a huge deal, though as my home PC is where I spend most of my Poser time.

" understand the linking. I linked a lot of runtimes in P5 and had no problem. But with P6, it just does not work correctly. Everything I try to load, it asks for the .obj file. It doesn't matter what I try to load." I've noticed that as well - not so much with obj but with textures - it's as if P6 is getting "confused" about which runtime to look in for the required file. Also in deference to the above comments, I transfered my Poser 3 runtime to Poser 4, my Poser 4 Runtime in turn to Poser 5 - and I never had any issues..... So go figure? - I think it's one of those things that varies from machine to machine.

thanx guys - after reading thru yr posts i'll keep status quo for now - just reformatted my pc so can do without further hassle!

I have mine installed thus ... and everything (appears) to work just fine. Curious (labs) ... no? Actually, this is exactly the folder structure that I recommend. :) Your Runtime folders are installed beneath their own "Poser" folders, but all are beneath the "Curious Labs" folder, so they all work fine. --John

You can goober things up if you merge Runtimes. There is at least one file inside the Runtime that will kill other versions of Poser. I have a copy of the factory default runtimes for P4, PP, P5, and P6 so I can check things out in different versions of Poser. I've accidentally copied the wrong runtime into a version of Poser and Poser wouldn't work until I deleted that runtime and put the correct one it. There's at least one .dll that causes issues because each version of Poser wants a different version of that .dll. (There could be other files as well, but I saw no need to start experimenting on all the ways I could kill Poser.) Cheers!

Whoops, I did merge my runtimes. Actually I merged something like 4 runtimes together and it works, crossing fingers now that I have read this message, fine. The only problem I have is that I have duplicate folders and fines now between the main Runtime in P5 and the older P4 folders that is now in the download section. I have been putting off cleaning that mess up simply because it was a mess. The one thing that I have noticed about poser over the years and I go back to Poser 1, is that Poser will react differently on each machine that it placed on. P5 wouldn't run one of my computers, on one it is so slow as to be useless and works fine on the third. All of them have roughly the same stats except for the age of the machines...

" You can goober things up if you merge Runtimes. There is at least one file inside the Runtime that will kill other versions of Poser."

Would it not be safer to say "You can merge Libraries, Geometries and Textures Folders"

As far as my experience goes - see message 11 above I've had no adverse reactions.

In fact some people are advocating moving the !Daz (deltas) library to P6 for speed in loading INJ poses

Personally I feel the whole layout of Libraries has become a nightmare with each Merchant having their own Folder and the !Daz phenomonon.

I don't know how P4 users cope...

Wish that long ago we all had decided on a universal naming convention - well I can dream :)

Yep, but they asked about merging entire Runtimes and that can cause a problem. Most of the subfolders inside the Runtime folder can be copied, moved, etc. without problem. I did find that certain folders inside the P6 Runtime can't be deleted (the "heads" folders) but you can delete the files inside those folders and free up a lot of space if you don't use the face room in P6. Cheers!

As I said in a previous posting, I've decided to keep the status quo re. runtimes. However, my P4/PP Pose list is pretty long and scrolls on and on. As I'm now accessing it from P5 can I create folders to put the various textures, MATS in so that I can navigate more easily through them?

"As I'm now accessing it from P5 can I create folders to put the various textures, MATS in so that I can navigate more easily through them?" No problem there, as long as you DON'T want access them via P4 again, as P4 doesn't access sub folders unless you have PBoost.

I'll do that then - I know P4/PP doesn't support sub folders. I shall be using P5 exclusively