I just bought "Real World Bryce 4" it is close to 1000 pages and sure has helped me understand things the manual never explained very well, I am almost ready to actually do some images in bryce now. I strongly reccomend that newbies get a caopy of the book and plan to spend a few weeks reading. Susan Kitchens and Victor Gavenda really did a wonderful job on this one. if anyone has any other books they can recomend to this newbie please feel free to pass the titles along. All this powerful software is pretty intimidating :) Weslok

I have that book and think its awesome. I dont think its a good book for beginners, I found it a bit confusing in some parts and left you to find your own buttons and how to do what they asummed you know how to do (ie..Bolleans, tells you to group them, after selecting 2 or more objects?? How do you select 2 or more objects?.. I found it but they could have told me.. page 276 or somewhere near there). I feel a much better book for beginners is Bryce F/X and Design by R. Shamms Mortier (ibn 1576104826) , it is based more on projects then just info. For me projects are easier to learn from then just a bunch of info. Both book are great in there own right, but for learning the one I mentioned helped me out the most when I was just starting. Hope that helps you also.