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Subject: COPYRIGHT PROTECTION on a web site... i need your help!


MaydaMason ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 7:30 AM ยท edited Mon, 03 February 2025 at 5:00 AM

Hi guys!
Ive a question about copyright... my idea is to create my web site... in this site i want to publish my pic, computer tips, software tips, a download are... this site will not be for commerce, just for fun
What must i do to make a copyright protection on my works?
thanks! May

Message edited on: 05/03/2005 07:31


Mayda

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tvernuccio ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 9:13 AM

Hi May! kemal and i are doing the same thing right now...creating a website for the same reason. good question. i was just planning to make a statement on the website about all images are property of me, copyrighted, etc. maybe i should do more? thanks for asking! it will help me out too!


cynlee ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 10:31 AM

Besides the usual statement on copyright, enabling the right click, save, helps some... I guess you could check out some other personal websites & see how they have it set up or even ask in the Copyright Forum... sure you'll get some more advice here in a bit... good luck & congrats to you on the site! :]


TwoPynts ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 12:27 PM

Here's a sample taken from my site. XXX is your info: 2005 XXX, all rights reserved. All artwork, photographs & copy; XXX, all rights reserved. No part of this site may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means -- electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise -- without the written permission of the copyright owner. Site design by XXX 2005, all rights reserved.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


jimry ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:12 PM ยท edited Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:14 PM

heres a piece of javascript I use on my private sites...disables RIGHT CLICK...it displays instead the ...var message....






XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


TwoPynts ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:19 PM

Very nice of you...I'm gonna save that for when I actually have an on-site gallery. :) Just past it anywhere into the html, or somewhere specific? Thanks.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


jimry ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:33 PM

ok..I put it right under the tag and above the

on each page...works a treat....give it a go :)


jimry ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:37 PM

Attached Link: http://www.georgeunderwood.com/underwood.html

ok...click on a thumb...open up an image...right click... BUt....unless you know how, its not foolproof..but fools a lot of people I guess.maybe even frightens them...lol


jimry ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:37 PM

then ya see how it works


cynlee ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:41 PM

yeah... i like that :]


jimry ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:45 PM

I KNOW a way around it though...few ways in fact!...anyone else?


cynlee ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 2:49 PM

oh sure... screen shot! :] but like you said, it deters some of the folks... thanks jimry


TwoPynts ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 3:21 PM

I'm on a Mac, I just download the images no problem...but I'm sure it is a good deterrent on the PC side.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


DJB ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 3:23 PM

Sure I know around 4 ways around right clicks...If you want to stop the actual mouse right clicks from one trick you need 2 scripts running. But if I tell it in public how then that is many more who will know LOL

"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."



cavergary ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 3:27 PM ยท edited Tue, 03 May 2005 at 3:33 PM

Remember this basic fact of the web. Copyright statements are good and give you a legal leg to complain from. Software tricks can make image capture more difficult, but never impossible.

If your image has appeared in a visitors browser, they have your image on their machine. If the visitor is at all adept with their computer and browser software they will have no trouble at all using your image in any way they desire.

If your work is good enough to be reused by someone you should be flattered. If they are honest, they will at least credit you and possibly pay you. If they are not, you can pay a lawyer your lifes savings to chase them down and punish them in a court of law. But your image was still stolen and misused.

Message edited on: 05/03/2005 15:33


Erlik ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 3:37 PM

There's absolutely no way of preventing anybody from saving your pics. NO way. There's no need for screenshots at all. And no need for right clicks, either. That script on georgeunderwood.com doesn't work in Opera, anyway. :-) About the copyright notice, yeah, you can put it on your site, won't hurt, but you're owner of your pics as soon as you fixed in a medium, which includes digital files. An example of the notice: Everything on this website is copyright XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX and may not be reproduced or distributed without permission. All rights reserved. But you better put a small notice on the pics themselves, too. That way the people who want to take them for something else beside putting them on their desktops cannot say they didn't know.

-- erlik


TomDart ( ) posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 10:32 PM

What about "digital signature"? Sure, this is not the inexpensive way out... How does this affect the image and still let the image live? Very curious...


Erlik ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 12:19 AM

What do you mean, "digital signature"? The watermark?

-- erlik


MaydaMason ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 12:47 AM

thanks for all your answers about this question.... as cavergary says every pic i see in my browser is saved on my hard disk, disable right click is sicure with a little part of people... i've heard that to make copyright for printed pic i must to send it myself and the stamp make as copyright with date and my name is the productor of this image... but with the web is different... can i wrote under my site that all the pic there are copyrighted if this is not true? i've not registered anywhere.... i've a lot of doubt for this question... btw thanks a lot for your script to how to disable right click, surely i'll use it! :)


Mayda

MaydaPhoto


MaydaMason ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:41 AM

i upload a pic now and this link is under my image http://www.renderosity.com/index.ez?viewLink=328 beautiful thing renderosity! :)


Mayda

MaydaPhoto


Erlik ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:48 AM

" can i wrote under my site that all the pic there are copyrighted if this is not true? i've not registered anywhere...." You're talking about a different thing. Registered Mark, which has to be registered, has nothing to do with copyright. You are the owner of the copyright as soon as you create something. You don't need to register anything. Unless you give the copyright to somebody else or you have signed such a contract with somebody, but that's another matter.

-- erlik


TomDart ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 7:10 AM

Erlik, yes, watermark is what I mean. I suspect this "ruins" the image but am not that familiar with it.


TwoPynts ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:05 AM

It does not ruin the image. Depending on how it is applied, you probably would not even see it. :)

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


MaydaMason ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:21 AM

so what i must to do is to write that "all images in this site are protected etc...." in my future site or on my images? just this?


Mayda

MaydaPhoto


tvernuccio ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:20 AM

appreciate hearing all this!!! Kort, i was looking at your website and like how you worded yours about copyright. is it ok if i use similar wording? JimBo...good stuff. it's certainly a deterrent for some people who aren't tech savvy! thanks! i'm also quite please to see that RR finally has that disclaimer under our photos!


LostPatrol ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 12:42 PM

I dont bother at all, sorry but it is mostly is a waste of time. It may spoil the party for casual surfers, but a determined images thief will make short work of it! And they are the very people that need to be stopped; the casual surfer pinching an image for wallpaper is little more than a slight annoyance. Best method is to make your images low res (72dpi) and small (no larger than 700 on the longest side) making them almost useless for print. Or Put a spoiler right across the image (not good) but will stop all but the desperate. ALWAYS put a copyright statement. The sad but true 100% protection method is dont put them on the web if you dont want to risk them being stolen. I can bypass any method of protection quicker than it has taken me to write this. The truth is I dont because I have no intention of using anything that is not my own. For me there is no point. If I see an image I would like to use, I ask simple as that, if I am told no, then it ends there. I can always go and try to emulate it if I so wish.

The Truth is Out There


danob ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:35 PM

Yeah sigh it is impossible but even tagging each image with a watermark is not foolproof

Danny O'Byrneย  http://www.digitalartzone.co.uk/

"All the technique in the world doesn't compensate for the inability to notice" Eliott Erwitt


Onslow ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 3:55 PM ยท edited Wed, 04 May 2005 at 3:57 PM

Attached Link: http://www.digimarc.com/watermark/

I agree nothing is foolproof - but what use are most images - personal use by someone, they are not of a high enough quality to be of any use comercially unless they happen to have unique content that is newsworthy.

There is digital fingerprinting software such as that available from Digimarc if it is a problem that others are using your images on the net. MyPictureMarc is one a lot of people use.

Message edited on: 05/04/2005 15:57

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vlaaitje ( ) posted Sun, 08 May 2005 at 11:54 AM

I have my own website's and built website's for others. I use a HTML GUARD. Among other features this software lets you encrypt your HTML source code and disable the right mouse button, text selection and the print function within a browser. Put an end to copying and modification of your HTML code, images and text by others thus protecting your copyright. It is a bit more work, because you must work with 2 folders, but it is worth it. I know also nothing is safe, they can take all if they want that, example a program "Snagit" or just the simple "printscreen" button, and then paste and cut, and they have what they want. But the last one needs more time. I hate it if people use images or poetry from others, and place it on their own website's. In the past I found out that a woman used my poetry without permission, and post it on her website. So I warn the provider, because I could prove that they where mine. Because I published in more poetry-books. And I won the process. But it will be hard to fight against it, no doubt. I also found 4 times stolen art here on RR, and I always warn the moderators. P.S. sorry for my misspelled words.... Ilona

Ilona Krijgsman: My Tree Of Life
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TomDart ( ) posted Sun, 08 May 2005 at 2:16 PM

Good information, Ilona.


tibet2004uk ( ) posted Wed, 11 May 2005 at 4:06 PM

Oh Jimbo, now this is a neat trick!! Definitely gonna try it on my site!!!


vlaaitje ( ) posted Wed, 11 May 2005 at 4:23 PM

I did what you wrote Jimbo, but it is to easy...if you just pusch two buttons the same time, then you can take it.....thats why I use the html GUARD, wat you can do is put a transparant image behind it with the "dhtml effecten" and if they use the right mouse click, they catch only the transparant.... just a tip..... I did before I use the html Guard

Ilona Krijgsman: My Tree Of Life
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tibet2004uk ( ) posted Wed, 11 May 2005 at 4:56 PM

The code didn't work on my site!! I don't get it! :(


MaydaMason ( ) posted Thu, 12 May 2005 at 12:49 AM

congrats!! i like a lot your work there!! i've to try it... when i'll find the time :(. But this is marvellous, something that i've never seen!


Mayda

MaydaPhoto


tibet2004uk ( ) posted Thu, 12 May 2005 at 7:34 PM

A real cool trick Ilona but I don't understand how u do this! O_o


MaydaMason ( ) posted Fri, 13 May 2005 at 12:35 AM

i find the time to try... what is the correct script to write and where? i'm a newbee of web pages :( Must i use Frontpage?


Mayda

MaydaPhoto


vlaaitje ( ) posted Fri, 13 May 2005 at 1:04 AM ยท edited Fri, 13 May 2005 at 1:06 AM

Yes, I talking about frontpage with the " DHTML effects" it's in there where you built your website....the html GUARD, you can search for the trial version. That's what I use, but becareful, you must work with 2 folders. Because you must upload with the html folder, and working in the normal folder. Sorry if I use wrong words.....but I guess you understand me. If you do wrong then you can't see nothing on your work pages...because the javascript code

my tip, first try on a free website if you go for the HTML GUARD....before you lost all what you have built....and dont forget to make a back up from time to time....

I will explain later if I have time Pascalle the easy way....just put a transparant behind it.....I will show you step by step....

Ilona

Message edited on: 05/13/2005 01:06

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tibet2004uk ( ) posted Fri, 13 May 2005 at 7:56 AM

Thx Ilona! U're an angel, but since I don't use frontpage I guess I can't do this then! Oh well! It might be useful someday though! :)


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