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To everyone who has been asking, it's ready. Comes with these textures. Female business suit up tomorrow. Anton AntonKisieldesigns "New meshes for Poser"

For the curious: The brown one is a "Black-headed Grosback" Red one is a "Hepatic Tanager" Yellow one is a "Magnolia Wabler" Think I got the spelling right, but with me ya never know. :) There is a morph to open the beak. Now I wish I had downloaded that free bird's nest from Zygote last years. Oh well.

Very nice.

Great. I'm a big bird lover and will be on my way to get these to add to my bird library S. I wish I had the bird's nest too, not sure how I missed it but I did. I've seen it used really successfully in some unusual ways too.

Anton, I can't get your link to work. This bird is beautiful! I've wanted birds for a long time, but there's so little out there. Melanie

Melanie, the link didn't work for me either so I went to www.bbay.com and found it there--think it was in 'what's new' but I believe it came up on the front page anyhow. They are good, aren't they??

Anton, do their wings fold up to a rest position? This was unclear from the info on BBay & your pics. BTW, they look great!

Wait, you think "Wabler" is the right spelling? I guess they may pronounce it that way in Boston...

Ayuh doozy. Kind of like "pahking the cah in the yahd!" grin

Attached Link: http://www.bbay.com/anton

Hi there, Link has a typo. There is a comma instead of a period. Poser Wings with feathers can never really truely fold up. Poser joint parameters prevent it. Wings that flap and wing that sit in a folded position have to be seperate. I went with one that are articulated. Batwings link my dragon's wings do fold up perfectly. The problem is that there are feathers. Warbler. Is that betta. :)

It seems that one trouble with bird wings is that some ofn the joint rotation axes are skew. There is a feature in Poser to move the x/y/zrotate axes away from being straight along the coordinate axes. In my Gerry Anderson UFO series alien, I successfully made his helmet's zrotate axis go skew so that the helmet rotated correctly on its sloping seating.

wheres the business suit? bird looks great! I've been looking for so long for a bird!!!!

It's not a rotation issue. It is a geometry issue. Bird wings in Poser cannot flap and fold and have them both be perfect. The individual feathers have to arc and bend aside from the body part itself. Real bird feathers slide under each other as the wing folds, like cards in a deck. Poser can only scruntch them up like an acordian. One way around this is to swap in new wings, but aside from that it it a joint parameter limitation that will always exist.

Not to seem ungrateful, but it seems not unreasonable to have a folded-wing model and an open-wing model, given these limitations on geometry. Perhaps the next release of songbirds? And now i have a craving for an owl, too. ((sigh)) Sorry to be so greedy with your talents and time.

I hear what you are saying. The more time a project takes the more expensive it gets. There will be folder wings, many more textures, swapping geom and more goodies in an expansion pack for the bird later. But many people do not want all that so it's better to offer it later for those who do. But don't get me wrong. The wings fold beautifully. But I am a stickler for reality. That's why I wanted to be clear about the folding limitation.