Attached Link: http://www.contentparadise.com/user/product.php?productid=10136&cat=0&page=1

Cool, thanx for the heads up! Goes some way to alleviating the pain of all the problems ;-)) thefixer poser coordinator.

It just makes the pricing system sound so arbitrary.

They make the most money by the selling at the lowest possible price, so "arbitrary" may not be the best way to describe it. "Unrealistically high" might be a better way to describe the normal price.

"It just makes the pricing system sound so arbitrary." Valuation in the field of digital content is indeed a mercurial thing, especially with the great deals that some venues have been offering lately. However, I can't imagine complaining about something like this. If CL is trying to win us over regarding Content Paradise, they're doing a darn good job. Be advised that your valid Poser serial number is required for this purchase. There's a checkbox option for saving your serial to your CP account. If you haven't already added it to your CP account, be sure to have your serial handy before making the purchase.

As far as I'm concerned, CL may run many of these promotions! However, I can't imagine complaining about something like this. I can see people who haven't bought P6 complaining. But I'm not.... I'm very happy the way CL 'honors' the people who bought P6 :-)

I always check CP now when looking for stuff. I've found instances like the Magellan and a RuntimeDNA package I bought that was cheaper at CP than at the RDNA store (RDNA price was $19, I paid $11.95 through CP).

If CP keeps doing stuff like this: I think that we'll begin to see a decided turn-around in the attitude of many...........

"I'm very happy the way CL 'honors' the people who bought P6 :-)" LOL... very funny, indeed.

I just purchased this and did a quick draft render and it's bloody good value for what is effectively just a little over 1 for me. thefixer poser coordinator.

OK...while I pretty much think that requiring the number to order it is more or less a joke, I'll probably get this anyway...2 bucks for a ship like this seems to be a major bargain. Haven't explored CP all that much on my own. Is there a handy way to find stuff that's on sale like this there?

The Magellan is an amazing model that is NOT a normal CL product. It was created by a company called IMAGINATIONWORKS, which has since opened a new Poser subsidiary called Poserworks, a company that is not affiliated with (or owned by) CL in any way. As I paid something closer to its full price when it came out more than a year ago, and thought it was a bargain back then, I can attest to the "value" of this product. It's great! Simply amazing! Anybody who doesn't get this for $2.00 is nuts. Anybody who thinks The Magellan's normal price is "unrealistically high" hasn't played with it. This is probably worth the price of Poser 6 alone, "memory bug" and all. I get really tired of the "everything CL does is evil and bad" mentality on these boards. Go check out the prices at any other mesh-for-sale website if you want to see what "unrealistically high" is all about. And for those of you who haven't got P6 yet, I am genuinely sorry that you're missing out on the fun.

I was amazed about Magellan spacecraft being for sale, it seems like stealing it.

Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou! I have been wanting that bird for =ages=! Now she's all safe and sound in my runtime. Now if I could ever get my bloody computer stablized enough to risk running Poser and Vue again...!!!!!

And for those of you who haven't got P6 yet, I am genuinely sorry that you're missing out on the fun.

Agree 100%.

Memory bug and all.

It seems like the Magellan needs a lot of work to get it running in P6, though. Every piece I've tried loading up claims it's missing textures, and I've checked the material setups - some pieces are using .bum maps. One of the project setups included with the install seemed to even be searching for a poser 2 character to load into the scene, which I don't have. With all the maps and material zones, it's going to take a while for me to setup P6 materials :- Seems like a decent model, though. Although the textures are little more than "cloud" filters done in photoshop with detail overlays here and there. Still, for 1.99, it's hard to beat. I'd pass over it for the 150.00 price tag, though.

Attached Link: www.poserworks.com

Wow what a deal. Almost hard to believe.

Thanks for giving us the heads up on this one, aeilkema......you've earned your forum pay this time, for sure.

And thanks to both Curious Labs and to Poserworks for bringing on an offer like this one.

BTW - I have several other models from Poserworks. It's well worth your while to pay a visit to their website. Some of the best models to be found anywhere.

Just curious. I don't recall the first content Para... users with P5 being offered anything like this. Please tell me I'm wrong. Something just doesn't seem right.

I downloaded one of the other specials which wasn't limited to P6 owners... Content Paradise has a terrible colour scheme; at times I was struggling to read text. The only payment option appears to be credit card. The Wishlist is useless. Don't bother trying to use it, there seems to be no way of getting to it other than by adding an item. Curious Labs and bad colour choices? You don't think they employ colour-blind artists?

As a colorblind artist I am deeply offended... well not really, but I am colorblind :p

THEMOTHEROFGOD... I dont need a spacecraft NOW. But sure Ill need it anytime. A $150 cargo spaceship for $1'99 is INCREDIBLE. And if a day I need a ship Ill hate to say "ARGH, I remember a nice CL ship for $1'99 and I didnt bought!!!!" This afternoof Ill buy it!!!

It's a great ship and works fine in my P6, I didn't have any trouble with textures loading. The only thing wrong with it is the slightly un-user friendly license agreement that you have no way of reading from the Content Paradice site. It's why I passed on buying it a few months ago when it was on sale. You can read the license at the Poserworks site though, if you care. For $150 or $50(the sale price it had a few months ago) I felt the extra restrictions on not being able to use renders for broadcast production and in games was a bit much, but at $1.99 I don't really care so much. -Matt

Oh I did forget there is a pre-made PZ3 included that tries to load one of their characters, which if you don't have will give you errors of course. I pretty much ignored the PZ3 files and just loaded the pieces myself which seemed to work. Of course I'm so used to products having bad texture paths that I might have totally forgotten fixing up a bunch(I use a string replacer app for that usually). It's almost par for the course these days. -Matt

I'm kind of shocked. Is anyone else alarmed at this denial of Content Paradise support for thier customers buying Poser 5?

Interesting. I had assumed anyone could shop at CP and download the freebies. Are they keeping people who don't have P6 out somehow?

randy, I have tried to buy the magellan. CL ask me for my poser6 serial number. So probably this is a deal only for Poser buyers ... so Ill buy this afternoon, I havent the number at work ;)

You'd think they could set it so it would remember if you're a P6 owner or not, since you have to log in anyway. I'm getting really tired of typing in that serial number. :-P

relax already...damn..its a special for us fine folks that forked over addtional money for P6....or us idiots as a gratuity for beta testing AGAIN..whichever way you want to look at it. P5 is now a dinosaur, so to speak...its not what they're pushing now...their new baby on the street is P6...thus the specials are for buyers of P6.. what is so hard to figure out here?

I'm getting really tired of typing in that serial number. :-P

This might be the last time that you need to. If you checked the right box, that is.

There was a little check-box underneath the serial #line -- if you checked that box, then your P6 serial was assigned to your user account.

Or so the instructions said, anyway.

Hmm, CL just took a huge step closer to having me convinced to buy P6. I remember when this ship came out and how I drooled over it.

"It seems like the Magellan needs a lot of work to get it running in P6, though. Every piece I've tried loading up claims it's missing textures, and I've checked the material setups - some pieces are using .bum maps. One of the project setups included with the install seemed to even be searching for a poser 2 character to load into the scene, which I don't have. With all the maps and material zones, it's going to take a while for me to setup P6 materials :- " Nalif, I'm not sure what you did wrong, but I'm having no problems with the model at all. It runs fine under P6, perhaps you installed it wrong? Try re-installing it and make sure you unpack it into the correct folders.

Hi Guys!

Wowsers!

Pam at PoserWorks here. Thanks for the heads up my Ray O'..., And J.Semp, THANK YOU for your undying loyalty and ever-faithful support. As always, we so much appreciate your more than favorable input in support of our product(s). Bless you.

I was on this forum last evening and THOUGHT I HAD responded to this thread. But low and behold, when I came back to check the thread this morning, I found my post never "posted". I fear that I either "timed out", or was too quick to escape out of the Renderosity forum/site before seeing my response actually "POST". Oh well, it isn't the first time this has happened to me. : /

On to the business at hand regarding the SS3:

First off, this model has been on the market for THREE years now, reminding me once again how quickly time flies and how old I'm getting! : O Ohhh Nooooo! But the reason for this incredible deal is not an "arbitrary" pricing structure on the part of PoserWorks, but rather a promotion stemming from an agreement made between Curious Labs and Poserworks to announce and promote our partnering with Content Paradise.

The first paragraph under the SS3 Description on CP states (and I have copied and pasted the direct text below):
"This model is available to all Poser 6 owners for $1.99 now through June 15th, 2005. You will be required to enter your P6 Serial Number at checkout, unless you have already entered it into your personal profile on Content Paradise."

I had planned all along to send a newsletter out to all of our loyal and devoted PoserWorks members, however, I chose to wait until all of the kinks had been ironed out with regard to our database on CP--BEFORE doing so! I imagine it will go out on Wednesday. It will also include a VERY special offer for OUR members that will be available on the PoserWorks site ONLY.

As far as missing textures for the SS3 in Poser 6, I found no problem other than the existence of pz3 file(s) for Amy. Unless you have Amy, these file are unnecessary. They were only included as a convenience to those who have this model. Now this part is MY fault! I had requested that Tom clean out any unnecessary pz3 files and re-archive the SS3 to avoid any confusion and/or eliminate inquiries about this in the future. He did so, but I inadvertently put the old file up on Content Paradise. So for those who have downloaded this file, I suggest you simply delete any Pz3 file(s) that are not required for the SS3 to load. This will avoid getting any pop-up dialogue boxes in the future. I did not find that the SS3 had any MISSING textures in P6, P5, or P4. If you are having this problem, I suggest that you double check your files and/or follow the loading instructions in the readme text file. But all of our models are archived to unzip automatically into the structure/folders Poser uses. We do recommend that you load our models from the project folder/file rather than the rollout, because it is all set up for you that way (scaled/sized, etc.) That being said, perhaps the person(s) having problems may have unzipped the model incorrectly. If not, the only other thing I can think of is if you are loading this model on a Mac. Our models are NOT Mac-ready. They will work on a Mac, but you need to do some "juggling" to put the files in the right places. Painful I know, but one day we'll have all of our data available to support both Win and Mac platforms. (Although it does state Win right on the SS3 page at Content Paradise.)

Hope this answers your questions. We didnt think a really great sales promotion would put us in a quandary, so hopefully this clears up any and all questions regarding this limited promotion. We have others coming up in the future.... Perhaps not THIS BIG, but pretty darned good! I will advise all PoserWorks members of them in advance in the future... once we have our database in place and stabilized on CP.

I'm getting really tired of typing in that serial number. :-P
It IS such an exhaustingly painful ordeal, isnt it? (LOL! ;) Im teasing you... Can you tell?) XENOPHONZ is right! And in case any of you missed the extent of the paragraph I pasted in above, (that I copied directly from our CP SS3 Page) you only have to type in your P6 SN IF YOU HAVENT YET entered it into your profile on Content Paradise. I believe that if you typed it in for a similar promotion it is also automatically and permanently entered into the CP database as well, but dont quote me on that. I will check and get back to you on that one. But this might explain why some of you were not asked for a SN in order to download. Your SN had already (previously) been entered and authenticated. For those of you who DID NOT PURCHASE P6 SN and were able to download anyway, you need to let me know.... PLEASE? ; )

(Drunk Monkey. I mention you only because your username cracks me up. Yours, What the, and fishnose I think are my top 3 favs.

Im going away now.

Cheers!
Pam

Message edited on: 05/16/2005 12:32

Thanks, Pam!

Not sure if it's a glitch for real or a DAZ|Studio specific glitch, but the y-trans dial for the cargo bay elevator is hidden in D|S. Easy to fix, and as I say it may be a misreading by D|S, but I thought I'd mention it.

Thanks Pam ;-)

Pam, that first paragraph in the description appeared in purple, against a black background, when I tried to read it on the CP site. This is not a very readable combination.

Kinda' funny seeing one of my renders in the "Magellan Readme" PDF file. I made that picture so long ago, Tom hadn't even finished the shuttle bay module yet, so the ship has no back end. :) (Hi Pam...how are things down in LA LA Land?) -Steve

Just a head's up. The Phaeton personal starship just put into the marketplace fits the bay section of the Magellan without scaling...

That's odd. Seems there was a problem with my download or something - I redownloaded the file, reinstalled it, and everything loads as it should now :) Looks great. Maybe I'll get around to making some textures for it someday :) Thanks for the help, everyone.

Bought ... ;)

Shame I already own the SS3 at this price make me want to buy it again just for GP this is a GREAT model a must have at this price did I say this was a GREAT model??

THEMOTHEROFGOD... $150 originally ... I understand now Testing the second pz3 file, SS3 All.pz3. This loads all. Folks, this is ENORMOUS ... 100% poser scale. Therere detailed zones in all the ship. I hadnt seen nothing like this but moebius freebie Antares ... but this is like four or five Antares! I loaded a Mike to see the comparation and I COULDNT FIND HIM, hes like an ant near a car!!! Sure Im going to enjoy a lot. Thanks, CL, CP, EF !!!!!

Heh. I cant resist the temptation ... Sizes Test Quiz: try to find where is our Michael 3 ... The Giant Ship, I said ...

Not on my computer :( And I'm not tempted enough to buy Poser 6. And it looks more like a housing project than a spaceship from that angle.

AntoniaTiger, go to content paradise or poserworks.com to see the complete ship. It looks awesome and it is awesome. I'm not the usual person to recommend something, but this one is worth recommending!

Attached Link: Link to Ss3 on CP

StevenT!!!
How astute you are to have noticed. We STILL LOVE your Hells Kitchen render.... Arent you chomping at the bit to do some more renders for us? ; ) And just where have you been, Mister?! Youre in No CA now huh? I was just thinking about you the other day and wondering if we'd EVER hear from you again. Tom just moved... guess where? Downstairs into my duplex in Hermosa Beach! It's very convenient to get to work now! LOL!

Casette,
Michael is floating in space with no spacesuit! You wanted him dead, or what?

Nalif,
"The Phaeton personal starship just put into the marketplace fits the bay section of the Magellan without scaling..."
How cool is that... at only $1.99 for the price of admission. (Nyuk Nyuk) That works out well, and when we weren't even trying! LOL!

Antonia Tiger,
"And it looks more like a housing project than a spaceship from that angle."
LOL! IT IS a Housing Project... it's the habitat for the Crew, (Remember, it's a cargo ship! ;)

"The only payment option appears to be credit card. The Wishlist is useless. Don't bother trying to use it, there seems to be no way of getting to it other than by adding an item."
They're working out all of the kinks at CP right now. The reason we only have one product up now is because they have an enormous amount of data to publish and a lot of other things on their plate at the moment. In due time, all will be ironed out and I'm sure you will find this to be a stellar venue for Poser related content and complimentary software products and tutorials. They can probably better serve us if we all just exercise a little patience with this endeavor... since it's a biggy. Personally, I'm just glad to see they have gotten back up in the saddle and are doing WELL! They worked awfully hard for years to bring us this great program called Poser, (let us not forget who invented and wrote this program we've all grown so fond of) and many wonderful 3d products at more than reasonable prices. I'm sure your input is of value to them, as is everyone who takes the time to suggest improvements. If enough people have the same complaints... suggestion (?), they will probably take heed.

Pam, that first paragraph in the description appeared in purple, against a black background, when I tried to read it on the CP site. This is not a very readable combination.
Its fuchsia but on that dark brown background probably looks purple. I thought it stood out nicely compared to other colors I tried, but I did bold the text and makeit one size larger. Please check it out and let me know if you can see it better now. Tx! (See, we listen... so before you aim, know that we all aim to please. After all, Were all just Bozos on this bus! ;)

RHaseltine,
Thank you so much for giving all who use Daz Studio a heads up on this. Im at a loss when it comes to how our models work with/in Daz Studio since we have never used it. We build all of our models for Poser, so we know they work there just fine. ; )

Stallion,
Shame I already own the SS3
Bless your heart. Weve got other things on the agenda for the not so distant future, so just stay tuned. CP sends newsletters out frequently, so you will know about them as they arise.

Thanks one and all for your kind words and suggestions for CP.

Should this thread have been posed on the PSF? Are we in trouble? Guess we'd know by now, or will soon enough, huh?

XO!
Pam

Casette that ain't nuthen. Go to Poserworks(.com) and check out Tycho under Space Habitats. Note the dome on the upper end of the central shaft then click the "click here to begin slide show" near the bottom. The first slide shows the Magellan next to that dome. Now that is big.

Pam, THIS Michael is a very strage rage, a CASETTELABIANT, his skin supports space, zero gravity and FURIOUS ALIEN HAMSTERS' ATTACKS ;) Tyger_purr, NO WORDS. If I have a liltrouble to move the Magellan or my cams around it because its size (I need the preview box mode) ... I cant imagine the mess with Tycho ... :O

Casette,

"CASETTELABIANT, his skin supports space, zero gravity and FURIOUS ALIEN HAMSTERS' ATTACKS!" LOL! You aint right, Mistah! (Thats Mister in a Jersey accent. ;)

Regarding Tycho: We created special camera for Tycho interior shots and there is a separate readme.txt file with the operating instructions for this camera. And please know that Tycho is also modular (hence the 1-5 modules) so you can, or only have to load one level of any one module at a time. The camera we provide should allow you to get just about any shot you want since you can move it around. For tighter interior shots, well...you can handle those on your own without any instruction from me. There is also an aerial camera 550' above ground that can be used in any of the modules. So we really did try to cover all angles (no pun intended. ;) I asked Tom if he might think about building sci-fi models on a little smaller scale. But apparently I work for a man who likes to think big. Every time he says "Pam, I've got a surprise for you." Right off the bat I'm thinking :OHHHNOOOO, and am tempted to respond with, "How big is it? (SIGH : /)" OKAY, Minds out of the gutter YOU!... I'm talking about 3D models here! He's JUST my BOSS, okay? LOL! pg

Hey I just had a thought... how about a set of poses that move Tycho (or magellan for that matter) so that the desired place is at the origin (where your figures come in when inserted)... Does that make sence?

"Pam, I've got a surprise for you." PAM CALLING PHONE "Hi. Er ... NASA? Oh, yes. Well, ehm ... I would ask you I you would be sooo kind ... er ... have you one of those quantum physic computers? Yeah, one is free now. 1.800.000 Mz? Ooff ... 1000 Gb RAM? I dont know ... you see ... Tom has sent me his last sci-fi model ... and ... ... I NEED A COMPUTER FOR TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS IT ..." :D