Message edited on: 05/20/2005 15:38

What I do when I want to pose something and there isn't a canned pose for it is to just take something that is close to the pose I want and then just start spinning the dials. It takes a while, but like anything, the more you practice at it the easier it gets. This one for example, could start as a kneeling pose, which there are lots of in the Free Stuff section, and then just move things around to make it look more like this. Turning IK on and off for the hands will let you get the hands just where you want them.

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I don't know what the gurus do, but here's what I do when creating a pose from scratch in most cases (not all):

1--Adjust the hip rots as best you can.
2--Adjust the butt and ab dials. (Ignore the rest for the time being. You can hide parts if you like, but I don't bother with that.)
3--Go back and fine tune the hip rots now that the butt and ab dials have been approximated.
4Now fine tune your butt and ab dials to compensate for your corrected hip adjustments. (At this point you are done with adjusting the hip, hopefully ;)
5Moving farther outward from the root (hip) its time to adjust the chest and thigh dials and so on and so forth.

Basically, youre working from the root (hip) outward. I used to get fouled up by doing outer parts prematurely causing me to do more dial spinning than necessary. This little process has saved me a lot of time and its really quite simple. I hope I didnt word it awkwardly. Thanks for asking this question here. Im interested to see others thoughts on this as well.

Message edited on: 05/20/2005 16:42

Attached Link: http://schlabber.org/html/tut00.htm

I'll have to try and find the link because I think I'm at a point now where I actually feel I'll benefit from the tutorials. I'm wanting to tweak poses more and more and the various parts of the figure and what to move or not to get what I want is confusing. I relate to moving body parts by "joint", but in poser it's literally by body part and not joint. That throws me for a loop, hehe

EDIT: yep. It was him.

Message edited on: 05/20/2005 17:21

yeah! that's the pose except for the right leg should go under. i need a tutorial with pictures!!!

I noticed the 'right leg thing' and here's my take on it, but I'm no artist. If you look at your sketch you'll see that it looks like the right thigh is facing out and a bit left/down from the viewer. The shin is bent about 90 degrees or so. It seems like the foot should be at least partially visible, but, I dunno ;) Maybe I'm wrong. In any case that's a detail that's easy to adjust.

Attached Link: http://www.e-frontier.com/article/articleview/1010/1/319/

I second Karens suggestion. I read everything I could find posted by Schlabber before my copy of Poser had even been delivered)) Been a while, so, frankly, I had forgotten.

...disregard my assessment of the 'right leg thing' above. Told ya I wasn't an artist ;) The subject is, presumably, sitting on a flat surface in your sketch. In my quicky pose I paid no attention to that. The subjects foot would be sticking through the floor. Easy to fix though. I also paid no attention to horizontal torso and head orientation, not to mention the chin needs to come down a lot (with both head and neck adjustments, I think). Point is, the method works well, but a mere hobbyist like me will take an hour to see what an artist will see instantly. I'd guess that fine tuning the pose would add 2 or 3 minutes to the process, but the talented would see the need much faster than I would.

Thnx guys i shall try all of ur suggestions. I WILL LEARN TO POSE COME HELL OR HIGH WATER! :D Tunnesy, Acadia, Fazzle and Karen u rule! :)

Attached Link: http://www.vanishingpoint.biz//tutorials.asp