I posted this image last week and got some very nice suggestions. To those of you that made those suggestions.... thank you. I think I did all of the suggested changes. The cobwebs I made in the DTE... I hope they are convincing. If I could get any final crits before I do a final render I would sure appreciate them. I have been thinking of doing DOF on the spiders raised front leg.... Think that might work with this image?

Well thanks in advance. 8)

One major flaw that I can see, my friend : Lighting. There isn't any, really. I'm using an industry-standardizing ViewSonic E771, the best 17-inch monitor in the bizz (arguably). It's far, far too dark to make out any details and such. Either crank up your lights, or use a light-rig of some sort!

I have to agree with LSD,(sounds like a Greatful Dead lyric)on this Wade. The pic looks very dark on my monitor too, and I recently checked my gamma using a test that Flak turned me on to. I like all the details you added since your last WIP post; I'd just like to see 'em a little better. :-)

I can usually see the pics people call too dark, Wade, but I gotta agree with them here. From what I CAN see, the composition is coming along great! Lighten up. :^)

I've got some crap Dell 17" and I can see it pretty okay...lol. Throw in some dramatic torchlight or something, I think that'll add to the feeling of the image and also bring out details more.

If you draw in some interesting lighting, maybe some of the visible volumetric stuff, it would help a lot. Also, I think the blue-gray triangle in the foreground is a spiderweb, but try actually modelling one with individual strands rather than setting a texture to a shape. I've seen the progress, it's coming along quite well. Better than my Outpost pic, anyway ...

ouch!, offf!, hey you!, hello?! one radial light would do, ;>

Way too dark!

Huh? All I see is a black screen LOL.

I do like the fire on the torchlights. One thing you might consider (yup I'm agreeing with everyone else lol) is to make the radials much, much brighter, then fiddling with the falloff. That way, you still have the feel of a dark image, but you can make out more details. The spider model looks great. You know what would be cool? If you could figure out a way to have compound eyes on it. I think it might look a little more monstrous and a little less "cute" (it's hardly cute as it is lol). One more thing. How about an adventurer poking his head out through the door? He could be carrying a torch, which would also help to brighten the scene. Also you could put a skeleton arm in another shackle on the wall, with the rest of it lying nearby on the ground, as if it either gnawed off its own arm and died from the shock, or decayed and rotted and still fell. Just some ideas for you. =)

Here's what I mean, Swade... If it's a difference of monitors, yours my friend is up past the legal limit, and is damaging your retinas as we speak! (smirks) This is just a one-click auto-contrast in Photoshop. It's too bright by anyone's standards, BUT, it's standardly bright as well. From an artistic standpoint, unacceptable. But the image you posted above would print as almost pure black... I'm not saying you SHOULD make it this bright at all, Ser Swade. Just pointing out how different our monitors must be, and letting you know that yours is seeming weird to me, given what Adobe has to say about it as well... Not trying to pull elitism either, my monitor isn't a big, fancy one. It's a standard kickass Viewsonic, which means "Sony" in English. But it goes up to 9600 degrees, and as far as I know is in tip-top shape. Tell me how bright this image is on yours, and compare with the one you posted in #1 here?

Maybe a little more big flares, fire looks great. But the wooden part is too small in comparison with skeleton fist :)

I agree with LSD. I've got a very bright LCD monitor, and unless my eyes are dimming (checks around the room). Nope, eyes functioning properly. Your image Swade, is way too dark (switching to infrared).

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Lol... you guys crack me up.... (no offense intended) You just give off some good humor when you reply. I like it. I appreciate all the feedback for sure. 8)

LSD... We might have a bit of difference in our monitors(probably time for me to re-calibrate mine) There is a huge difference between the two images contrast for sure.
(Elitism...hmmmmm..... never even crossed my mind.) 8) I posted this for your comments... good or bad. ( I am not one of those pansy's that can't take some good honest criticism.) Lol _ I use you guys's observations and crits of my work to learn as well as observing your works. I thank you all for being honest in your observations.

I tried to keep it a bit darker as dungeons in my mind are not overly bright. But maybe I kept it a little too dark. lol Apparently so. 8)

I do appreciate your feedback I will post what I hope will be my final WIP in a bit. I took all your comments and suggestions into account and implemented. 8)

Wade

Message edited on: 06/03/2005 12:13

Again, I am on a different computer, a pentium 3 450 at the court house in seattle. you cannot even see the image in number 1, at all, swade... and i mean nothing. the color-corrected image i adjusted shows up fine. you will also note that this message is nearly devoid of capital letters - the shift keys don't work on this computer! amazing what my tax dollars are doing, these days.... (grins) just giving you the heads up on things. don't want people to think you're messing with their heads with black "renders".

Thanks LSD.... I have another WIP I am gonna post in just a little bit... as soon as it is done rendering.... maybe about 15 mins or so. 8)

I see a black screen with three really dim torches on 24 inch sony.