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Subject: WardrobeWizard or clothes converter?


isacatcar1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 3:16 PM · edited Wed, 15 January 2025 at 1:08 AM

WardrobeWizard or clothes converter?


SAMS3D ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 3:27 PM

I have no idea...hope to hear also. Sharen


destro75 ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 3:29 PM

I have never used Clothes Converter. When I was about to buy it, I found out PhilC was working on WW, so I got in on the Beta, and I never looked back. From what I hear, there are a few steps to making clothing work with CC. WW does everthing with the click of a button. I truly feel Wardrobe Wizard is the most helpful piece of software I have ever purchased. (And I have purchased a lot of software.)


rain ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 3:33 PM

I've used both and gave up with Clothes Converter. I like things to be simple and WW is just that plus I've been getting great results with it. I've never had so much fun with a product. Highly recommended.


isacatcar1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 3:52 PM

You guys are really making me want to buy WW. WW meet my CC no not Clothes converter. The one with the Visa logo.


ariannah ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 4:00 PM

Since WW supports Mac users, it definitely gets my vote and very soon my money, lol! ;)

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TamiL ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 4:49 PM

Hands down, Wardrobe Wizard...........I finally got sick of trying to make Clothing Convertor work..... Wardrobe Wizard works just fine!


martial ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 5:46 PM

Vote for WW me too


mamba-negra ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 6:27 PM

Yeah, I had an early version of CC but was very underwhelmed. So, when the upgrade came out, I never even considered purchasing. However, I recently got WW and have had a number of surprisingly good successes. eric


MachineClaw ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 6:31 PM

I would stay away from CC, I've hated it since I bought it. I have read nothing but great things about WW. Even people who posted having problems then figured it out were happy. Plus PhilC is a cool guy if I had money I'd send it his way and have in the past. Always a good transaction and email responces.


Marque ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 7:05 PM

If you use the Wardrobe Wizard does it keep the conforming? Thanks, Marque


LilWolff ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 7:20 PM

I had clothes converter but returned it. I can't tell you how it worked since I never got the help I needed, at the time I bought it, to fully try the product out. You will be very pleased not only with the way Wardrobe Wizard works but the help and support you will get if you need it.


LilWolff ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 7:28 PM

Yes Marque you can still conform. :-)


Marque ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 7:40 PM

I mean will the clothing conform or do I have to make it conform? Just want to be sure....lol Thanks LilWolff. Marque


LilWolff ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 8:08 PM

Oh lol got it! Some nights the brain is just not there! After the converting to with WW - 98% of the clothing I have done I just do the regular poser conform to figure 1, 2 or 3 from the top menu bar in poser. The 2% difference are for special clothing with morphs I want to keep, like hair that blows left, right, that kind of thing. That is when I sometimes use the advanced convert to buttons. Phil has some very good videos for us on doing that, well worth looking at even if you don't do optional advanced work. But there I sometimes cheat and if something looks good for a still image and has the movements I wanted to keep, I parent it, instead of continuing. Personally, I only mostly save the WW's from data files and not the obj's and cr2's it makes from the conversion. I want easy and quick and nothing taking up a lot of room in my already over crowded runtimes. :-)


MachineClaw ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 9:54 PM

must get job. must pay rent. must not run and buy WW. must pay rent. sorry, have to keep saying my mantra or I will get myself in trouble.


Smoovie ( ) posted Fri, 17 June 2005 at 11:00 PM

I compare WardrobeWizard to the invention of the microwave. I don't know how I ever got along without it. Clothes Converter was a pain in the butt. I never got the much use out of it, because it was just to frustrating to use. Best of all, is the product support for WardrobeWizard. I have this quark about anything I purchase. If a product is flawed, as long as the costumer service is A+, I'm happy. PhilC and Kamilche have exceeded my expectations. They continue to work tirelessly on fixes and updated. I swear, I feel like I owe them something.


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 2:07 AM

Remember that you can download a Demo of Wardrobe Wizard. It's limited to the basic adult figures from P4 and P5, with no time limit. There's some figures out there, such as Lemurtek's Second Nature line, which are P4-figure derivatives. Anyway, there's a lot of P4/P5 clothing out there, and texturemaps, transmaps, and stuff. So get the Demo, and see what you can do.


blaufeld ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 4:31 AM

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Clothes Converter. "From what I hear, there are a few steps to making clothing work with CC." Not anymore. As you can see, just load the clothing, source figure and target figure, hit the "Make Art" Button ;) and that's it. You can also do multple batch processing. And yes, it does gloves, boots and capes/coats with extra bones too - and transfer all the morphs with the clothes. A limitation colud be that the "Autoconvert" works only with Unimesh or Unimesh-morphed figures - you can work manually with different types of figures, but I found it very simple; a big bonus for me is the batch conversion. So this is a prog that suits MY needs and I would exchange it with nothing... but it could be not the same for you. :)


dialyn ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 9:40 AM

When was v2.2 released? I only got the upgrade up to 2.1.


blaufeld ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 12:40 PM

The one you buy at DAZ3D now is v2.2 Perhaps if you ask to reset your download on DAZ, you'll download the updated one...


dialyn ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 12:52 PM

Thanks!


MachineClaw ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 12:59 PM

I only have CC v1.2 from Daz. I certainly wasn't going to pay for more upgrades to a program that didn't work out of the box. if CC v2.2 works okay now well good for MarkDC for finally listening to users, but if I have to pay another $40-50 bucks PhilC will get my money.


dialyn ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 1:03 PM

I think my upgrade was around $20 and it came out before the Wizard. Since I had already bought it, I just wanted to make sure I had the latest version. I've had uneven results with all of the clothing converters (though the Wizard seems the best so far). I guess I'm fated to stay a techno ninny.


dialyn ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 1:17 PM

By the way, blaufeld was correct. And I notice that Daz has automated its reset function from the last time I needed a reset, so it only took a few minutes to get my upgraded version. That's good to know, just for general information. :)


MachineClaw ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 1:17 PM

I hear ya, I'm that way with some of my upgrades too even if I dont really use them enough to justify the cost. CC propbably works now, I don't know. However sometimes it's nice to see a programs progressive past to see which to buy: CC - 1.0 (buggy), 1.2 (buggy pay upgrade), 2.0 (buggy pay upgrade), 2.2 (suposedly works okay pay upgrade) PhilC's Wardrobe Wizard - 1.0 (works out the box), 5 free patches!) That's all I'm saying.


dialyn ( ) posted Sat, 18 June 2005 at 1:24 PM

I hear you. I'm not advocating one over the other, though I think the Wizard is pretty amazing all in all.


toolstech ( ) posted Sun, 19 June 2005 at 7:29 PM

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I'd say both tools are useful, as each has different strengths and weaknesses. From one Universal Mesh figure to another, I'd say Clothes Converter is superior. But for converting between other non-Universal Mesh figures, Wardrobe Wizard wins. This image is a conversion of the FireDancer from RDNA to Jessi using Wardrobe Wizard. It was quick and relatively painless, though there are a couple of small problems with the bottom of the skirt, and I found that trying to convert the jewelry did not go too well. This took longer to render than it did to convert.


toolstech ( ) posted Thu, 23 June 2005 at 12:00 AM

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As a comparison for anyone still following this thread, this image is an attempt at a Clothes Converter version of the same FireDancer clothing conversion from V3 to Jessi. What it did convert right, seemed to convert better (the top, vest, belt, etc - though there is some wonky stretching around the base of the skirt that isn't really visible in the image). But note the hair in outer space, the ear rings gone to who knows where, and that green splash around the hips is from the anklets. So, again, it just seems to me that each has different strenghts and weeknesses, and they both do some things better than the other.


Boni ( ) posted Sun, 03 April 2011 at 8:13 AM

Okay ... I have a question or 3.

  1. do you have to have support for both to and from figures? that is with WW2 do you have to buy the support for the figure  you want to convert from as well as to? I understand with CC the figures are included ... but I'm also talking about Xdresser by Evilinnocence ... where you only have to hve the recieving figure.

Hmmm. I got all the question lumped into one.  Well, this is important to me ... I don't want to replicate purchaces if it isn't needed.

Boni

Boni



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