ok guys, here's version 3.0 that kemal made.

the camera...free stock image off the web. ya'all didn't care for the other other 2 so what about this one?

URL is in lower-case.

took out the part about 3D art as advised.

world map is gone.

we both like this one. still is a bit different than other business cards. maybe it's cleaner...less distracting...

we plan to change the pic. we're gonna take a picture of ourselves these days and use it. the one here was taken by my dad 2 years ago.

sorry for bothering you guys, but gosh, it's so hard for us to be objective, as Kort said, i think.

feedback, suggestions, ideas...still wanted and very much appreciated! and thanks again guys for all the advice and stuff you've already given us!!!!!!!! :)

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clean, balanced, definitely says "photography"!!! a thumbs up from me! :]

Thanks, Cindy! *whew* *wipes brow* LOL! ok...now wanna know what ya'all think about this. We were thinking about what Michelle said...how our card should reflect our homepage. then she suggested that maybe two separate cards was better. Some of ya'all have also said to have it just focus on photography. what do you guys think? if it reflects our homepage, it'll be about more than photography. we did want Creative Adventures to be about our art as a whole. Photography is a huge part of that. But also, Kemal's 3D art is another part of it. digital art would encompasses kemal's 3D art, as well as our 2D art, photo-manips, and maybe even some web-design...all of which we could do. i dunno...we were talking about it a few minutes ago and kinda like the idea of it all being on one card. But we're not sure. can't decide. Whatcha think doing it this way...so it reflect our homepage a bit more?

Yes, very neat indeed!! I'm not sure about adding teh Digital art though cos it doesn't look as "serious"! I mean, if u wanna have clients fro ur photography, stick to that on the card! Know what I mean? But hey, what do I know! I love the design of the card better than the first one for sure! It's not as busy. It looks more professional! Yep! Way to go guys!! Can't wait to see the final resutl! ;)

how bout if kemal puts a 3D figure by the camera? sitting on it, sprawled out beside it, posing in front of it? something like that! :]

I like it! Streamlined.... not cluttered.... balanced...... great job!

I was going to jump in on the other thread but I wanted to use my card as an example. The one thing that bothers the heck out of me in this final vesion is the Domain name. Sharon and I firmly believe that your Domain and E-mail should reflect your business. Having an E-mail different than your website (such as BlankPhoto.com has Blank@yahoo.com) is bad advertising. Notice that my Email matches the website. Also notice that if you go to my wevsite it redirects you to zhounder.com. I own both domains but I am presently only using the zhounder.com domain. Once I take the time to actually finish my pro site the domain will change and the auto redirect will work in the opposite way. If you E-mail me at zhounder@zhounder it will redirect to Michael@magickmichael and the domains will do the same. Parking a domain and having a autoredirect is cheap, like $20 a year and usually includes at least 2 E-mail addresses. Otherwise this card is the best of the lot. Good luck! PS Michelle, great card!

Thanks so much guys for the feedback! Cindy...nice idea you have!! Thanks!!! :) Pascale...thanks girl! we've pretty much decided to keep it "Photography & Digital Art." We feel like that reflects what we're about and reflects our homepage. :) Appreciate you feedback!!! Michelle...Thank you! Glad you like the changes!!! :) Michael...nice card! Thanks for your input as well! We see your point and understand what you're saying, but we really don't want the name of our little business to be "kemal and sheila blah blah blah." And no way can we use our last name 'cause it's like a thousand letters and no one can spell it or say it. anyway, we sure do appreciate your advice!!!!! :) If we make any more changes to the card, I'll show you what we've done, but i think we're gonna keep it like this. Kemal has tried some different things tonight, but we like it the way it is. I think it'll work! Thanks a million guys for all your help!!!!!! :)

Well, mine doesn't have anything about photography, but here it is... :-) (I have to finalize the site and put it on the card.) From yours, I'd only drop "visit us online at". Leave just the URL and make it _bigger_, so it gets more importance. I'd also use a smaller font for "photography and digital art".

Cool card, Vlatko!!! Hmmmmm, clandestine art and design...my curiosity is peaked!!! thanks for your suggestions too! we sure do appreciate it! we kinda like the "visit us online at..." because it's like an invitation...a friendly welcome to come see us! I think we will make our phone number and URL a bit bigger as you suggested. Great idea! we do wanna keep the font size the same for "Photography and digital art" because it matches the font size for "Kemal and Sheila" at the top. we think having both these font sizes the same, it kinda makes the card flow smoothly and show some kind of symmetry. anyway, thanks again, Vlatko for your feedback! and it's nice to see you again! :)

Hope you dont mind... Was tinkering with your card. Maybe give you an idea? Or not. Thomas

don't mind you tinkering a bit, Thomas! :) Thanks for taking the time!!!! I DO like this...the way you rearranged it. the only thing i don't care for is the shadow around the camera. I like Creative Adventures at the top like that. maybe we'll print some out like this too! Thanks, Thomas! :)

Thanks! I put the shadow under the camera to make it stand out more than the pic of you two. (Note - remove the shadow from picture - it is distracting) The visual flow is in a "Z" pattern: Title to subtitle to camera (camera points to picture) to picture to "visit" line. You could also make just the letters in the title red to draw back the attention from the "visit" line to pull you visually back to the top to repeat the visual flow. Thomas