I think it's important to speak out your mind no matter what the consequences, if:

a) you do so with an objective view on the matter. i don't believe having an agenda is necessarily wrong, as long as the arguments you bring and the points you make are perfectly valid.

b) you explain things logically and dispassionately.

c) you respect the person or the subject to an extent.

d) irony is fine as long as it doesn't become personal.

and that's that. the whole argument over this forum not being some place to air out dirty laundry in my mind is communistic and vile, it's wrong and absolutely idiotic. people who say that should be shot. nobody's airing out dirty laundry, in most cases the issues presented have perfectly valid points in our 3D hobbies. and what's more, you always have to present a third point in an argument, regardless if it makes sense or not, simply to enforce what you first said and possibly make it logical so that the people getting shot thing above doesn't sound too strong. that said, thank you for your attention and i wish you jolly holidays and all that :) drac

ya had me goin' there, Drac..from one squabbler to another..;) Lock the doors and hide the women, the US Military is coming to town..;)

but what about pro render?! hahahahaha just kidding don't go down that road again.

It isn't surpising that Drac is a diplomat....is it? ;-)

yeah and (b)rice is visting him when she goes to roemenia looking for those hidden dugeons lol.

So,.........preemptive strikes are out of the question ? Drac's a dimplomat ?

At least Drac can't be accused of "hidden agendas" LOL :) What's this about US military moving in? My tax dollars going up again? First its chasing shadows, now it chasing Drac's/ oh my

You had me at "I think it's important" 8 ) Tom

Is this how certified diplomats reason? ;) I wish the politicians overhere would have a mindset like this.

american army is setting up some bases in romania, nothing major, just for training and regular shooting ppl. thanks, drac

Yeah sure,...............Visit the United States, but if you can't, don't worry, we'll get around to visiting you sooner or later. Heeheehee.

I see diplomacy is treating you well, Drac...

Drac, you're my favorite diplomat. And that's saying a lot!

lol, I say let the americans come :P our army is better! smaller yes, but our guys are better ;)

Jolly Holidays to you as well Drac,lol.

Drac is saying what we are all trying to think.

Hi Drac, I read you at WOB and admire your convictions. I don't always agree with you but that is what freedom is about...freedom to believe what one wants to, not what one is dictated to believe. You display fairness in your opinions and a willingness to hear the other side. Also enjoy your sense of humor, though not always obvious. I am not a confrontationist and have the curse of wanting to make everyone happy. We know that's not possible so someday they'll just pack me away in a straight jacket :) In the mean time, I'll let you sit in the hot seat and enjoy the ride from the cheap seats :D Thanks for stirring the pot for us. Nancy