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Attached Link: Seriously Grave Copyright Infringement Charge - Lynching Request

Seems someone's called yer number up. :-P

im not going to dignify your bullshit beyond this - you are deliberately trying to bait me and honestly, you are not worth any more of my time.

noone tests my new products. ever. i test my own products - that is how it always has been and how it will remain.

"Amazing coincidence considering Blackhearted states above that he hardly ever trawls the forums."
i also stated that i had spent pretty much every waking hour since friday night at 2am sitting in front of my comp doing comparison renders, communicating with the copyright agents, and yes - checking the forums to see when umutov would rear his head. that i noticed a post with umutov in the title at the top of the poser forum an hour after it was posted isnt much of a feat - i should have noticed it sooner. if i hadnt have seen that post by traveler id have posted an announcement myself the same day.

judging by your artist page and previous forum posts i assume youre into conspiracy theories. you probably think bush personally set secondary charges in the WTC, then had a threesome with saddam hussein and osama bin laden.

i dont need publicity, and i dont want it. i just want to do my work in peace and let my products sell themselves. this is why it took me 4 months to discover a blatant infringement that i could spot from the product thumbnail. if there is anything i want made public, its that there is a thief who had 8 submissions and counting across his various stores that were infringements of my work, daz's and other merchants -- and im not going to sit by and let it be swept under the rug.

it's now outta control. 'nuff said.

Mark_UK, Not that I don't think you are trying to interject your opinion just to make yourself sound like you actually KNOW something about the situation, which you obviously don't, anymore than any of us, but if Blackhearted DID get any publicity and sold a few more items after this crap where his work was blatantly stolen, I think it just makes up a little for that. So if he gets more items sold and gets some more attention for his high quality work, bully for him. He deserves it after what was done. Baiting him doesn't help. Lying or making something up because you want to get a rise out of him doesn't do anything but perhaps make a wee small ego who only likes to cause crap get its jollies. Try Viagra, instead. Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. -Plato Blackhearted, don't let this guy get to you. He is probably Umatov or a third cousin trying to start crap. Ignore the insect, it will go away.

Khai - geez, you think? but im not going to sit here and take his accusations lightly - he crossed the TOS line long ago, as well as the threshhold from merely a troll to someone who is personally attacking me with libelious remarks. ..and hes accomplishing what he set out to do. i did a search in the community forum and half the threads mark_uk has ever participated in have been locked. his anti-merchant/marketplace/admin sentiments are as clear as his behavioral pattern as he chimes in to every thread with the most inflammatory remarks he can conjure. ironic that he accuses others of trying to gain publicity when his own remarks and entire presence in this thread and forum revolve around that very purpose.

"So if he gets more items sold and gets some more attention for his high quality work, bully for him. He deserves it after what was done." sales have been very slow since the MP changeover. surely part of that is due to the fact that i havent released anything in awhile, but i still noticed a significant dropoff in sales. hopefully when customers get used to the new store and regain their confidence in it sales will pick up. till then, if this has increased my sales in any way it cant have been more than by 1-2 items a day since i havent been selling much more the past 2 weeks. and naturally i have to engineer these things every once in awhile because otherwise noone would buy my products. in reality there is no umutov - he is just a clone account of mine that i created so that i could rip off my own products and then report him (myself) and stir up this big controversy so i could sell an extra product a day. "Blackhearted, don't let this guy get to you. He is probably Umatov or a third cousin trying to start crap. Ignore the insect, it will go away." its not so much him getting to me as the admins tolerance of his personal attacks on me. you can always tell the trolls because no matter what direction a thread is taking (this one had turned to just joking around with puns), they always chime in with some inflammatory remark to try and get the arguments going again. unfortunately this time i took the bait.

Mark_uk Just to make it clear why I'm responding now, I do read the boards several times per day, and always check replies. Just in case you think ANYONE may have alerted me. First, I don't test Blackhearded's items for him sorry. I do buy his merchandise, along with that of dozens of other merchants, and think he, and they, are very talented. Second, I, as stated in that message was interesteinf in purchasing some merchandise that day,among them one of Umutov's. I made a purchse of other items when i couldn't find his, then sent an IM to Umutov asking the status of his store. Maybe you can check on these things since you seem privy to so much information. Third, I have had an email converstaion with Blackhearted, in which we discussed some of the work I've done in hybrid clothing in relation to a product was working on. But that was some time ago when I posted some pictures of some jeans I was concidering selling for his GND figure. I have since put that project on the back burner, haveing found several flaws in the mesh and little enthusiasim for them. I have no idea if that conversation helped Blackhearted, I hope it did. Fourth, I took your first post as a personnel attack and was convinced it wasn't. This time I have no doubt. I WILL be contacting a mod to lock this thread and I'll thank you to leave my name out of future message. Any further messages WILL be concidered a personal attack and reported to the forum moderators as such. mike

It's quite unfortunate that the injured party is the one who is accused of being wrong. It often happens in the judicial system, and we see it happen here on occasion as well. It's too bad that there isn't a way that we can tell instantly if a product is all original. It has been quite some time since I have put a product in the store here, but I am preparing several as we speak ... so I'm not sure if there is an agreement that you have to acknowledge first that the product does not infringe on anyone's copyright. If there is such an agreement in place, and Umutov acknowledged that the work was all his own when he submitted it, then he has no right to be angry because he got caught. If you can't do business honestly, then you have to take the heat when the flames get high. Blackhearted did nothing wrong here ... the only "fault" that is his is that he is too talented. 8-)

Ok enough is enough this thread is getting nasty. I am locking it down. SndCastie