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Subject: Inject MAT poses


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 11:35 AM · edited Fri, 10 January 2025 at 5:46 AM

You all know how when you inject a MAT pose for say V3 and then you can't do the same thing for M3 because it only works on Fig 1, right! I know PBoost 2 has a plug-in that overcomes that problem but I can't spend $40 on one app like that just for that plug-in, I wouldn't use any of the other features of Pboost! So is there a stand alone product that does the same as that Pboost plug-in that's cheaper? Anyone know? Anyone make one, script or something? Thanx!

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


layingback ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 11:51 AM · edited Thu, 09 March 2006 at 11:55 AM

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fixer,

PBooost will get you much more than just FII, hard to see how to live without it once you have it. But anyhoo, if you are up to the editing task, read this thread started by Maveris, and follow my link in that thread to the edit list/vim script. Not really hard or very time consumming to do, but the downside is keeping track of and re-doing it every time you update or add to your !Daz folders :-(

Message edited on: 03/09/2006 11:55


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 11:59 AM

Thanx I'll look into that, I'm a bit lazy though! ;-(( ROFL

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


Dizzi ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 1:27 PM

One shouldn't use the same type of injection poses within the same Poser session anyway, as this will probably inject the wrong deltas. Easy to verify: - start Poser - load V3 - inject all V3 head morphs - new scene - load M3 - inject all M3 head morphs - save to M3V3.pz3 - exit poser - start Poser - load M3 - inject all M3 head morphs - save to M3M3.pz3 - compare the file sizes -> different sizes -> different morphs injected. Oh, and this all has nothing to do with MAT(erial) poses ;-)



layingback ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 1:57 PM

Dizzi, FII addresses this issue, and permits injections to any figure in a scene, even identical ones. You direct Poser to inject the correct figure simply by selecting the target figure as the current figure (ie. you click on it ;-) If by chance you have Migal's Stephanie Max - which is built FII-compliant - you can test this concept out by loading 2 copies of SMax and inject different morphs into each.


Dizzi ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 2:23 PM

I'm talking about different DAZ figures using deltas with the same name not injecting deltas to different figures in the same scene. This can only work, if the injection path of the first applied morph is invalid when the next injection with a delta of the same filename happens. And i don't see PBooost do that.



layingback ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 2:36 PM

FII works in that case too.


Dizzi ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 2:56 PM

I doubt it, as from what it looks like it'll only create a copy of the injection folders and thus injection "cheekballon" on V3 and afterwards on M3 will load the same delta for both... That's just how Poser works.



layingback ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 3:07 PM

Suggest reading posts by lesbentley, Jim Burton and others, including Maveris who discovered it. It works by removing the Figure 1 stuff, it's not related to naming at all, but to which Figure (number) Poser assigns the ERC slave control master to - which will always be Figure 1 the way Daz have it set up.


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 3:09 PM

What I was after is what "layingback" refers to in post 5. I can't afford Pboost2 to get the script so I was hoping there was one as a stand alone, but it appears not! Maybe an idea for the merchant to do that!

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


Dizzi ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 3:28 PM

So you don't mind injecting some of V3's Morphs into M3 rather than M3's? Well...



layingback ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 3:54 PM

Hmmm, 1 more try, then I give up ;-) Normally a readscript injection injects the ERC slave control, which affects the FBMs, into Figure 1, simply because Daz coded the deltas to (always) apply to "Figure 1". (Note that this means the very 1st figure loaded into a new, virgin scene, not Figure 1 on the UI, which is/can be different.) FII is based on removing all references to Figure 1 from teh injection files. In this case the ERC slave control is directed to the currently selected figure, regardless and irrespective of which model it is. This is, normally, what you want/expect: both the actual morph deltas and the ERC slave control injected into the same figure. So using FII it is possible to inject V3 morphs into M3, but selecting M3, and then loading a V3 morph - but why would you, with or without FII? Poser will not inject it incorrectly because you are using FII. On the contrary, Poser will load it incorrectly if you are NOT using FII, and have more than one Mil3 figure in the scene - which is what fixer is complaining of.


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 3:55 PM

Dizzi, no disrespect meant but I think you might have the wrong end of the stick! ;-) If I load V3 and inject a character package for her then I want to load M3 and load a character package for him. At the moment because of the Fig.1 restriction I can't! The add-on with Pboost2 allows that to be done and that's all I'm after! :-))

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


Dizzi ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 4:36 PM

Well, and if you inject the M3 character after the V3 one chances are good that the M3 character gets some V3 morph information injected. Load V3, inject !V3 Features INJCheekBallon, dial to 1. Works. File->New. Load M3, inject !M3 Features INJCheekBallon. Does the dial work? No, as M3 can't use V3's morph that just got injected. Or does that really work with FII, layingback? (Please really test that...)



Dizzi ( ) posted Thu, 09 March 2006 at 6:55 PM

Ok, you're right... Editing the correct file to test something really helps ;-) So getting a good text editor that can replace in all files below a specific folder (like PSPad) will make "fixing" the DAZ injections easy. Create a copy of the !DAZ folder, and then just replace ":1" with "" and "Figure 1" with "Figure". This won't help injecting custom character pz2s though, there you'll have to do it on a case by case basis. Guess i'll add that to my library browser ;-)



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