I've never messed with joint parameters, although I've read through Dr. Geeps tutorials on them. I know what a bent srinking straw elbow or knee looks like. However, what are other signs that a joint isn't bending properly? Are there any examples of what poor joints look like, something I can refer to so that as i work I can say - "oh. That's a bad joint. I need to tweak it." I have the resources on how to change them. I want to better recognize when to change them.

It usually smells real bad when you try to light it. ;=[

Or the sticky won't stick and it falls apart. 8 )~ Tom

A little bag with much too many seeds. :D

(grrrr - must... resist... hemp joke.) Hey Boba - gotta link to Doc's Joint Parameter tutes?

from the non-technical point of view, I consider a joint bad when it breaks the mesh or severely distorts it in an unnatural way when you rotate or translate to any position with "set limits on" Now, it is possible to move an arm or collar, for instance, to an un natural position with "set limits on" so really, it depends on eyeing normal bending. There is another issue: if the bones distort the mesh in an un natural way when the bones are at normal standing position! The most infamous case for that is the inward-curving upper arm, and the shoulder pads that are seen on all unimesh and on Jessie. It is still there on James, but less so. The defaul Apollo has the shoulder pads, but you can dial them away, unlike on other models. Bobasaur, I think bad joints are any that make the cage look unnatural at rest, alow movement that looks unnatural, or break the mesh. ::::: Opera :::::

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Gosh, I was gonna say that the glue on the paper doesn't stick, it won't stay lit, the fire falls in your lap while you're trying to look suave and debonaire, and the mutton falls off the bone. But perhaps I misunderstand...

it keeps going out ;)

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Other symptoms include ... I forgot. Where's the doughnuts?

@ Bobasaur

re:"Wow. You can learn so much on the internet... "

Yeah, like ....... what are the symptoms of a bad joint, et al.

;=]

Thank goodness for operaguy... [grin]

sorry ...
;=[

as for me, i can barely understand all the other answers. You people seem wierdly way off topic. What the hell are you talking about. did I miss something? The answers are so wierd, it ocurrs to me, are you guys on drugs or what?

Thanks for the link -- and of course,to Doc for the tute!

I dunno exactly -- my left knee was giving me a little pain a couple of days ago.

But in order to analyze your symptoms precisely: I'd say that you should go see your doctor. Seek professional help.

.....yes.....'professional help' is obviously what's called for here........

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Here's a helpful link. They can tell you all about the symptoms of a bad joint there.

Dr. Geep --

He obviously thought that you were a doctor. No wonder the poor man was upset with you. A bad joint is nothing to make fun of like that.

Oops ... sorry.
;=[

"I spent half that night just tryin' to get right on an ounce of oregano." -Jim Croche

Almost all of the Poser figures that I've used suffer from poor overall rigging (in the case of Daz unimesh, poor topology too).

Apollo Max seems to be the first Poser character that truly impresses me with how well it was rigged, and how it's joints affected the mesh at critical locations. There are a few others too, but this one in particular seems to set a standard.

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set a standard. Amen M

Symptons of a bad joint Bad munchies?