I know there are numbers on the right, but having the full thread, with each response, visible gave a quicker visual of what topics got a lot of responses. Subject lines no longer change color to show that they've been clicked nor do the new icons switch from read to unread, so I've got to find an alternative way to remind me where things left off when I go to the forums the next day.

Well, I'm testing by the moment... :blink: ... also the emoticons :lol:

They are working on the issues. Trust me, people have been complaining all day, and Rosity is listening. Just have patience, and it will all work out!

Casette, I love your sig!

Yes, we are listening and reported problems are being worked on Just continue to be patient and things will get worked out

Thanks, bandolin. It's the same in all the forums I am :woot: Angel1@ Report this: "notify by email" isn't working

From a webmaster's point of view, these forums are a lot easier to tweak - they should be able to fix the issues relatively fast. I like the new forum style, now they just need to redo the rest of the site in php too. LOL.

Cassette - make sure you have the forum you want to be notified of checked visible AND the notify box checked. You can do this under my options Please let me know if that doesn't help and I will report it right away

I FUCKING HATE IT. Im so sick of changes here just for chages sake. We lost Baron Vlad Harkonen, Wyrmmaster, and god knows how many other merchants cause of marketplace changes, now the whole forum looks like some wierd bloated out stranger.

I don't like the new look of the forums... I've seen it in many other sites and i also HATE it.

Avatars and smileys teach us just so much about using poser dont they? This forum was a beautiful, simple, streamlined place of knowledge. Now it looks like a fucking pre-school.

on a dial-up the forums were slow before, now they are glacial. avatars, smileys and animated gifs do nothing but slow things down more.

I'm not a big fan of the avitars and smilies either. Extra baggage to load that really isn't needed.

NO, I too have seen it on other web sites, I do not care for it.

Terrible, the avatars,smilies and signatures are a total waste of space.

But I bet you all loved the old search engine? ;) I don't like that we couldn't carry over our interface color settings, but this looks to be a great improvement over the old (archaic, crumbling, workflow-deficient, slow) forums. One must imagine that it will be weeks or months before all features are added and oddities resolved.

I miss the direct link to thread replies. If I had a bookmark or made a comment on a particular thread, I liked having a direct link to that particular thread in the e-bot notification. Now I have to go through the whole list in the forum to find the one I wanted. I also prefer to get the whole subject of a thread on the one page, in case I want to save it. For instance, a Geep Tut which sometimes has additional links, already makes for more than one page. Why should we need to worry about three pages for something that already has additional links and where the original first part only needed one page to begin with?

Takes a bit of getting used to, I like it! :)

overall i prefer this type of forum to the previous one, but i could do without items that just waste bandwidth: - avatars -- ok, so it personalizes the entry some, but please, don't make yours blink - giant smilies -- give me a break, are we preschoolers here? - quoting an entire post instead of only a relevant sentence -- KILL - large images in signatures -- KILL, EAT i expect the post bumping and marked-read update and search engine will be fixed, and most of the above is guided by community behaviour, so i am hopeful this'll end up being a more usable place.

Niles your avitar is the cutest one. I'm still laughy and smiling. I love it. I do not like how the front of the forum looks, all that writing, black and white, hurts my eyes.

I hate the missing links, I've tried to find a tutorial but I had to use to search engine to find, before the conversion I had a direct link to it. (BTW. the search engine is faster, thats a fact!

I prefer this style of forums to the previous ones.. altho I really don't like the fact that my personal colour settings gets overriden.. the old forums were easier on the eyes as I could have them with a dark background

I haven't noticed any advantages yet, but here are some disadvantages I noticed right away: 1) Much slower than before (hope this is temporary). 2) Thread titles don't change color after being read. 3) Avatars & emoticons clutter up the page (I've never been a fan of "cute") and probably add to load time. 4) CTRL-ScrollWheel no longer changes the size of the type. Is there another way to do this now? NOTE: I normally don't post an opinion so soon after a change. I'm doing this now, however, to test the ebots.

Hope that 'Printer Friendly' is going to come back in this format too. When a thread contains a good tute with pics it is invaluable to be able to save it without sidebars and all other info. Please!!

Don't like the color....I want my personal color choice back, this is killing my eyes:blink: Need bigger fonts. New threads/replies need to bumped to the top IMHO

I like it

I've seen quite a few people complain about the small fonts. I do believe it's an optic trick. As far as I can see, the font (verdana) and size is exactely as it used to be. The only difference, to me, is that I now have black text on a light grey/blueish grey background instead of black background with white text. But the size is the same. - it's easy to remedy btw. on a Windows PC click CTRL and use the scroll wheel on your mouse to make the text bigger or smaller

Jackson: 1) I've noticed no appreciable slowness. If anything, forum and thread loads are nominally equivalent. Maybe not faster, but at least it doesn't take five minutes to view a thread on one forum while two seconds on another. 3) Get used to it? I think that the avatars provide a good mnemonic for remembering users. With tens of thousands of users, names sometimes get tough to keep track of. 4) Your browser? If I hit Ctrl and rotate the scrollwheel, the font size changes - and very quickly. This feature is not part of any forum or website, it is a browser/OS/mouse feature. Start by looking there. No problem with email responses. I receive an email for every new post in a thread that I started/responded within. I think that order of replies should be up to the user (as can be done in other forum softwares). I like them in chronological order from first to last. :tongue2:

Kuroyume: Thanks for the response. As to #1, it still is a lot slower on my machine. It seems others are reporting "slower" and others aren't. Don't know why. #3: Yes I can get used to it, but I don't have to like it. It's just clutter to me, increases load time, and looks childish. (Oh gee, Muffy! I really looooove your new avatar, it's TOTALLY AWESOME! giggle) #4: My browser/mouse work fine using the Ctrl-scrollwheel in other areas, just not these forums. For example, it works on the Front Page and the Freebies page. Emails: Yeah, I'm getting emails on every new post, too. Don't want that. I just want to know when someone replies to a thread I've replied to. Is there a way to do that? Thanks again.

What an amazing thing, this progress. Slow bloatware must be the current thingy, so swallow it we must.........

Jackson: Seems to be a continuous thing with Renderosity. Wouldn't doubt this has more to do with servers and node paths - why, I don't know? Many forums allow users to set various features (such as show/hide avatars, show/hide quotes). This is why I like vBulletin. Know nothing of the functionality of Bondware 3.0. This font sizing doesn't make sense. Possibly it is the php causing the issue? Have you tried doing the same in the MarketPlace (since it is using the same software)? I'm using FireFox 1.5 on Windows XP Pro - no problems. Again, the email notification is usually something you can set in your settings (notify daily, on each new post, etc.). It will be nice when such settings are available.

Jackson & others: I agree with you 100%. To me, avatars, emoticons and signatures just get in the way. I read the forums for information and ideas and have avoided the forums at other sites because of these distractions. I have never found the forums at other sites to have as much information passed along, either, and I always attributed that to those distracting elements. I hope the wisdom doesn't stop flowing now.

It's soooo wide! If it weren't for the hoz scroll each page driving me crazy, sliding it sideways does at least get the text part to fit in 800 pixels AND hides the overly large avatars & associated column ;-) But real problem is it's an order of magnitude or 2 too slow. Anyone used CPG-Nuke, this stuff can be fast. Fear it was not designed for speed. Check out those already infamous yelow pentagons - each is a UNIQUE graphic (that just look the same) so each loads individually and visibly slowly, and hammers my bandwidth - let alone what it does to the server. [Right-click and View Image one and look at it's URL....] And why doesn't the Preview page have a copy of the Input text, without another button click? That's archaic alright, but again, a "feature" that slows the site "by design." BTW anyone figured out yet which pefectly good OSS app this was before it was slowed done, err, enhanced? OMG, they are downloading the CSS on every page! What a hoot! It's like a browser history lesson - (Maybe "How Not To Progress" would be a good title?) Opps! No record trail left on post edits - this is my 2nd. (Should make for some interesting revisionist posting, IYKWIM ;-) And no preview on edits, so don't make errors when fixing you errors :-P

1. It's slower, definitely. 2) Now I have to think of a cute avatar. 3) "Search by relevance" - hmmm. Not sure. Said it before, will say it again: smart technology is simply a way for machines to show off just how bloody stupid they can be. 4) I also have to think of a cute tagline. "Corrupted CR2 files - messed-up bend zones - render artifacts - now you REALLY know what it's like to be God." Nah, too long.

Forums seem slower to me. I am more used to PHP forum boards, so I like this new one a lot more.

Ten thumbs down. And no, I won't try to find an emoticon to express that feeling, though I'm sure one exists.

Not to be too negative against the 'negativity', but I take it that none of you use other forums? Almost every other that I regular (CGTalk, Randi, mine, Daz3D to name a few) uses php-style forums just like this (except mainly phpBB or vBulletin). So, if you really hate this forum, how do you justify going to any others just like this one??? Seems double-standardish to me. Let the flames roll in. ;)

I didn't have too many complaints about the old forums, and the new ones seem pretty decent as well, BUT... The email notification is a too much now. I'm getting a notice for every new post in a thread -- so apologies to everyone who just got another notification because of this complaint. The old forums would send you one notification and not send anymore until you'd visited the thread page again. Then it would reset. Now, on some of the busier threads, I'm coming back to my computer to find 10 notices that someone has posted to this new thread. One is sufficient and just as timely. I hope that's something that can be adjusted.

I love the new forums. They still have a LOT less features than the ones I'm used to, but even so, I think it's a vast improvement over the archaic style we had before. The only thing that annoys me is threads with new replies not being bumped to the top of the list. Hopefully that will be fixed soon.

The main problem right now is, as danamongden said, the thing with the ebots. I just got up (i's morning here) and my inbox was bulging with for instance 7 ebots from this thread alone :m_think: This is insane. I wouldn't dare going on holiday anymore. My inbox would reach its limit for sure.

PLEASE MAKE FIXING THE EBOTS A TOP PRIORITY!

I don't dislike it. I'm not too bothered by the changes to the front end. If the coding makes things easier for the mods/admins I'm for it.

I absolutely HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!

Attached Link: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1034

Eww..? Those stars have to go. Sorry. But no. Huge and looking like... well. Lets just not go there. It doesn't look professional. I couldn't give a toss about an avatar or a signature. I want FAST. It took 5 minutes just to load the front page of this excuse of a forum. I absolutely LOATHE the color scheme. Sorry but no thanks. I don't like bright, it hurts my eyes. Quite frankly... I would prefer to have some subforums in here, CLEARLY set apart. I don't know yet if replying to a thread will bump it to the top. If it doesn't then the entire exercise was a waste of space. I want a subforum where useful posts can be STICKIED. If stuff is stickied without a subforum, soon you have to go to page 16 to get at the new posts. God... when they said new forums, I was expecting new forums. This is slow as a dog, diabolical to look at, and by the looks of it, no more functionality than the old forums. The only thing that was added was avatars and smilies. 38 seconds to go from the main forum list into the Poser forum - and that's after I hit the BACK button! It had already loaded it once, it should be faster the second time I hit the link... It begs the question: "What the HELL?" Sure this is in the "Teething stage" but no professional outfit I know wallops in a change like this without TESTING IT FIRST and getting FEEDBACK from users BEFORE GOING LIVE. Geebus...

Ok I just reloaded the thread page to see if replies bump a post to the top. It doesn't. Get rid of this forum it's a piece of crap. Sorry to be brutal, but active - meaning replied to - threads SHOULD be at the top. That's BASIC functionality of a forum, especially a busy one, where many people post and threads can roll off the front page in a matter of minutes. That's the single most important thing in a forum - to have the active posts first so a user doesn't have to go through 5 gazillion pages to get to the one they want. It would SPEED THINGS UP for crying out loud and it would dramatically reduce the load on your server. Never mind. I'll be coming in even less now, and only if I really can't find an answer elsewhere.

Jackson: Thanks for showing that DP-Review forum. That's the gold standard for sure! Loaded in 4 seconds on first try and 2 seconds on second try, on my bad old dialup connection. Faster than running a simple non-web app like Notepad. Rendo before this 'progress' typically took 20 seconds to come up, and totally failed about 30% of the time. Rendo after this 'modernization' now takes 80 seconds to fill in, and fails 80% of the time. Progress indeed.

Yes, for the most part. Two things I don't like: 1. Crappy search system; 2. No Post Bumping or way to view only new posts. If and when they fix those 2 things, this forum will be great.

"Jackson: Thanks for showing that DP-Review forum. That's the gold standard for sure! Yep, they are the best I've seen. Fast, streamlined, professional. The whole site is like that. Great search engine, too. "Rendo after this 'modernization' now takes 80 seconds to fill in, and fails 80% of the time. Progress indeed." Of course it's progress, it's newer andmore importantlyit's glitzier! New and glitzy is always better than old and practical. Isn't it?

maybe if the forum is moved from the market place server it will speed up?

Quote - "Fear it was not designed for speed. Check out those already infamous yelow pentagons - each is a UNIQUE graphic (that just look the same) so each loads individually and visibly slowly, and hammers my bandwidth - let alone what it does to the server. [Right-click and View Image one and look at it's URL....]"

i agree with you here. the priorities and execution of this forum just don't add up to speed.. as you mentioned, it appears the "stars" graphic is dynamically built according to each post it's heading. that's nuts! not to mention, each icon is produced at 100 quality.. not that it would save a whole boat load of bandwidth, but 80 quality would be fine.. it's the principle of it... "OMG, they are downloading the CSS on every page! What a hoot! It's like a browser history lesson - (Maybe "How Not To Progress" would be a good title?)"

have you looked at the embedded css? yikes! no wonder they couldn't implement RSS, or any other features from, oh, 1998 and forward.. i truly don't understand why they even bothered to code this trainwreck.. there are probably ten fully capable, fast, well designed, feature rich bulletin boards they could have used.. it's just baffeling!

Hmm it seems a bit faster to me.. and if that's the case, I'm all for it!