is clother worth buying? can some one plz tell me if it is i mean is it a good prog or not if so plz let me know before i buy it thanks martin

I'm probably not much help because I haven't bought it, but I would have by now if it had been cheaper - $40 is quite expensive, and the included clothing options are limited. Have a look at the Clother reviews if you haven't done that already - the newer ones are all good, but the older ones were mixed and pointed out a few problems.

thanks for getting back to me it looks so good but i do not know what to do i mean if i dress the models in clother and then save then i can move them back to the poser without the models loseing the cloths is that right? i dont know i might buy it ill see i will have a good look around and see if it is any good and if i get it ill let you all know

Clother is a "second skin" creator - essentially it adds a texture map on top of the skin texture to mimic clothing. It works quite well - I don't own it myself but I've seen loads of renders using it. Because it's second-skin the range of clothing you can create with Clother is limited (no skirts or flowing materials) but the various packages available show how versatile it can be even within those limitations. The downside is the only person creating clothes for Clother is the creator of the software. There was a thread some time ago in the copyright forum about someone who tried to unlock the software so others could create for it; the creator didn't like that at all. Whether it's worth it or not - depends on the kind of renders you want to do.

Quote - "thanks for getting back to me it looks so good but i do not know what to do i mean if i dress the models in clother and then save then i can move them back to the poser without the models loseing the cloths is that right? i dont know i might buy it ill see i will have a good look around and see if it is any good and if i get it ill let you all know "

Well if i understand the programs description right it will allow you to pick you texture and the clothing textures you want to overlay on it. then it will create a composite of these textures and a MAT file that will alow you to apply it in poser.

Is Clother worth it...YES! Most of my renders use it, Look at my gallery and check out "Oriental Lace" and "BCuz " (they're on the first page) in OL I use it with normal clothing but in BCuz...it's all Clother. The second to last one I posted the bruises and clothes on one of the figures is Clother and Masker. The initial 40 bucks is steep, but the packs at 5 bucks a pop...is great, plus with the slew of free stuff, I think it's a very good buy!

I strongly dislike Clother. It does not provide for proper lighting (shadows set up in it are fixed and will not change). It does not have the capability of matching precisely the texture size in use -- becuase it either enlarges or shrinks the png overlays it uses to the texture map, or vice versa This creates distortion in the map and artifacts in the textures. Because it is a second skin, you will always have navels in bellys and points on high -- which looks rather silly and detracts from the final image. It fails, utterly, to take advantage of any of the advanced material room properties. In general, if all you want to do is get something that seems cheap and can let you slap something on your characters so they don't look naked, it will suffice. It does do an excellent job on things like underwear, for example. But Jeans with a t shirt? No. Clother is, imo, a waste of money. But that is strictly my opinion. It does exactly what it is said to do, but the imagery that accompanies it is typically highly misleading -- especially to newer users of Poser.

thanks guys for replying to my post so really its 50/50 i think what ill do is have a good look around see im no good at the cloth in poser everytime i go to cloth a girl or man whatever the cloth just gos well to hell it gos on the floor it gos all to bits and looks just a mess so this might be a good thing for me but anyway thank you all for letting me know

I don't have it but in response to ynsaen, if you are using the DAZ figures you can use the morphs that simulate cuffs, necklines, etc. I think there may be morphs for smoothing the navel and I'm pretty sure there are no-nipple morphs, too. That greatly improves the look of 2nd skin clothing articles. I do use some 2nd skin clothing items--they are great if you are animating because you don't have to worry about poke-through, etc.

Second skins are a cheap (not talking money, talking class) way of accomplishing what clothes do so much better. In my opinion, the only second skins that I like are from DM and a couple of other very talented merchants. The rest fall considerably short of what good clothing items can achieve. Second skins are, at best, for diminished (background, distant) figures where detail doesn't matter. I would never use a second skin textured figure in a close up. If you want to do second skins, use Photoshop layers. You have far more control over the process, you can create your own or use third party layers, and you don't have to fork over money for a prioritized application that is locked into a monopolistic system. Don't waste your money on inferior tools.

Attached Link: Clother Jean Example

Second skins are cheap? That's a very biased opinion. Second skin offer a variety things for poser users new and old. Calling someone else's work inferior is also a low. Like I said the initial price is steep, but the add on pack are very cheap...and the amount of free stuff is super. I've done jeans in Clother and they've come out great. I lover Clother but I normally use it in conjuction with "actual" clothes.

o that is nice really nice pic m8 so really i see every ones point now in some pics i can see it looks like there is a 2nd skin but in other pics like the one above you can not tell at all as it is with both clother and normal that is a nice pic right i think i have made my mind up ill buy clother if i dont like it in some time what can i say at least you all helped me out by telling me what is what i must say i am very bad a dynamics my cloths are very poor and fall to the floor sometimes im lucky lol and they dont but 9 times out of 10 they do so this for me would be very good for jeans and tops or pantie pose,s anyway thanks guys and ladys