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Subject: Weird bug: browser back button dies in forums


spedler ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:17 PM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 11:52 AM

This is weird - so weird, I'm reluctant to say it's the fault of the new forum, but I can't see any other explanation.

When I enter a forum I can go back to the main page, as normal, by clicking the browser's 'back' button. But once I'm in a thread, this doesn't work any more. At first I thought it was a problem local to me, but I have tested this extensively in other forums - DAZ, RDNA, and Cornucopia, to name but three. There, the back button works as it always has. In this forum, it doesn't.

The marketplace and the front pages work just fine, so it must be something to do with the forum software. I've tried IE6 and that works OK; but I normally use Mozilla 1.7.7. I can see the back button highlighting as I mouse over it, but there's no effect when clicking, on it, and the Backspace button on the keyboard doesn't send me back either.

If I had to guess, I'd say it has something to do with the fancy new text editor that's just been added, because everything was fine yesterday. Please fix this as soon as possible - it makes the forums unusable to me.

Steve


williamsn ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:22 PM

I'm having no problems in Safari, Firefox, or IE. Back button works just great.

I don't know?

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Angel1 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:23 PM

It's working in IE and Firefox for me..............

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spedler ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:28 PM

Yes, thanks, but as I say I'm using Mozilla 1.7.7 - not IE or FF. IE does work as expected (I'm using it now, yuck).

Are there any other Mozilla users out there - or Nicholas, could you possibly try Moz and see what happens? If it's just me, I'll have to fix it somehow (but why this has happened I sure don't know...).

Steve


diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:10 PM

I'm using Mozilla 1.7.12 ---- and am having the same problem.

Enter a thread, read stuff, hit back ... and nothing. No response whatsoever. The "working" indicator in top right doesn't change, no "waiting for/reading from" ... in the status line.

The only way I can get back to the forum is to go through the drop-down history , clicking each one in succession til one works..

And, yes, it was working yesterday...

Cheers,
Diolma



Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:11 PM

It is happening for me as well. Mac Firefox. Just happened today ...



diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:26 PM

Actually, it gets wierder than that. I just tried to get back after my previous post, and the 1st one that responded  showed me this thread with an empty space in place of my post . All it had was "Reply"  and a blank post (NOT a reply box, an actual post, as if I'd been thrown into a temporary, server-only  version of the thread).

When I slowly backed out of that,  the next that became available was this forum. Except that the top few threads were missing (including this one). Actually, it might have been there but not marked as "new". I didn't check that. I sort by "latest reply".

Oh, and I'd cleared my browser cache when I 1st noticed the problem (left 'rosity, closed Mozilla, restarted Mozilla, cleared cache, re-entered 'rosity.

The problem seem to be unique within threads....

Cheers,
Diolma



spedler ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:27 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:28 PM

Phew! Glad it isn't just me (and I tried FF as well, and got the same problem). I have gone through numerous other forums on the net now, and this definitely seems to be a Rendo-specific problem. I guess there aren't that many Mozilla users around or there would have been a lot more noise by now 😄

(Later) yes, I've had the empty 'Reply' box on hitting back as well, but only once so far.

Steve


diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:31 PM

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My mistake, it wasn't a "post-like-a-reply", it was a corrupted reply-box...



diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:38 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:39 PM

And I've just found out, that to get back to the forum, you (well, I) have to go to the seventh down in the "Back" drop-down list  (seems consistent)...

Cheers,
Diolma
(Wonder what the other 6 are??)

'course, it might be different if I don't post...

Cheers,
Diolma



diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:47 PM

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No, it's nothing to do with Postiing. The above is the situation just before entering the thread.



diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:49 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:51 PM

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And immediately after entering the thread....

Where'd all those extra pages come from?????

Cheers,
Diolma



calyxa ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:52 PM

I also am having problems w/ the 'back' button (Mac Mozilla, and Safari).

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spedler ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:57 PM

There's a common theme emerging here - the latest revision of the forum software is problematic with Mozilla, both on Mac and PC. I'm sure Nicholas is monitoring this thread, so hopefully we may see a fix soon.

Steve


diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 3:52 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 4:02 PM

Updates:

  1. The problem also occurs when using "My Options"....
  2. It 's not totally consistent in all threads. Occasionally I've been able to "back out" of a thread just by hitting the back button.  But  not often enough to detect a pattern.
  3. The "7 down" in the "back-button drop-down" does seem to be consistent (which at least enables me to use a sort-of workaround)....tiresome 'tho.

Cheers,
Diolma

PS: and have we lost HTML  italics??? and can now only use the italics from the toolbox??



MikeJ ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 4:47 PM

Yeah, back button in FF screwed for me, too. PC/Windows XP.
And I just had a total crash of FF when using my mouse wheel to scroll down before a page finished loading all the ...whatever it's loading...



diolma ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 5:23 PM

"....before a page finished loading all the ...whatever it's loading..."

Probably all those Yellow Stars & other gifs (I hope they're gifs, not jpegs..)

Until this gets sorted, clear your browser cache and internet temp files on a very regular basis (you'd be surprised at how much HD room you'll clear up..)

Cheers,
Diolma



nruddock ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:20 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:26 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2642738#message_2651056

The new editor is adding several IFRAMES to the page, which is what's causing the problem with the back button (they're being added to the history) [Mozilla 1.7.12].

This is causing much more trouble for others, see attached link.

Edit to add :
It's an editor bug. The default sample show this problem.


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 4:57 AM

Just enteringto say that the backbutton doesn't work  in Firefox on SuSe Linux either.

I'm currently exiled to hubby's PC (my own is tied up with a render) and I found this problem here. It's annoying.

The actual replybox seems ok though.No buttons missing,on the contrary it has more visible buttons than my own (I can't see anything right of the Ordered List button there but here I see a bulleted list and two link buttons as well.

Hmmmmm

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spedler ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 7:04 AM

nruddock, thanks for that info - very interesting. ISTM that Rendo should junk this new editor immediately, until such time as they get it working properly. Because right now the only browser this forum supports fully is IE6. It seems as if Gecko-based browsers are all problematic.

Steve


nruddock ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 7:30 AM

Attached Link: http://www.fckeditor.net/

See attached link. As I'm away for a few days, thought I'd post this link in case anybody else wants to look into what might be going on.

Alternatively there might be a fix on the Mozilla side, but I haven't started to poke around in the chrome yet.


spedler ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 7:41 AM

According to that link, this editor is compatible with Mozilla, FF, etc. So I wonder if Rendo have broken it in some way, or was it never as compatible as is stated?

Steve


nruddock ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 8:17 AM

Quote - According to that link, this editor is compatible with Mozilla, FF, etc. So I wonder if Rendo have broken it in some way, or was it never as compatible as is stated?

Possibily not, as the default sample that comes with the LGPL version is broken in the same way.


spedler ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 8:30 AM

Yes, I just downloaded and installed it here, and the back button is dead on the default installation. Another reason to remove it for the time being.

Steve


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