Quote - momodot said: I wonder what the impulse is for exhibiting art if it is not to make money or receive criticism. judging from the vast majority of comments here, it's to receive praise from friends, pretty much regardless of the quality of the material posted. while i appreciate that encouragement is important, i really do wish it were possible to get constructive criticism, but i suspect i'll have to work hard to cultivate connections to the few people who actually give such critiques, and i am not at all sure how to do that -- i don't really want to go around and beg people who don't know me from adam to look at my images. i wish there were a community specifically for critiques -- i am perfectly willing to do my share; i love discussing process. but this is really way off the thread topic. maybe i should start a new thread on it.

im  more then happy to offer honest critque to those who  can  handle it and want such feel free to im me with links  to them and ill truthfully critique it in either comments or im which ever u choose

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I agree with Mickma that there is a rather strange cultural ethos at work here.  I'm not sure one can put a date on it, e.g. "9/11 changed everything," - perhaps it goes back to the bizarre molestation panics of the 80s when entire communities became convinced that children were being molested en masse and infants sacrificed to Satan in daycare centers.  At some point however, what was once innocent became evil and people were liable to prosecution and persecution for taking a picture of their children in the bathtub.  Apparently this is not strictly an American phenomenon, since some school admins in the UUK  banned parents from recording school pagents for fear pedophiles would get ahold of the images (link).  It is amazing to me how legitimate concern over the safety of children has somehow morphed into this insane state of paranoia.

I remember a few yeras ago, I decided to see what all the fuss about Harry  Potter was about.  I was standing in the bookstore, looking at all the Whatsis and the Whosis  titles and trying to figure out which one was the first volume.  It ocurred to me to ask the child stannding next to me, figuring that he/she would surely know.  I quickly though better of the idea.  These days, being seen talking to a someone's child is just too likely IMO to be taken the wrong way.  No doubt it's cut down on the innumerable pinches on my (then) dimpled cheeks I had to endure from strangers as a child, but it's still a sad pass that things have come to.

"But we make up for it by never maturing intellectually."

Personal insight there, mickmca?

"...then the average American will fail till senility is over with."
"This isn't about sex, it's about.... money!!"

Oh well, perhaps not.

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Quote - Apparently this is not strictly an American phenomenon, since some school admins in the UUK  banned parents from recording school pagents for fear pedophiles would get ahold of the images (link).  It is amazing to me how legitimate concern over the safety of children has somehow morphed into this insane state of paranoia.

Indeed. Perhaps the common links are that both countries enjoy a sensationalist media, a litigious public and astonishing layers of collectively stupid official bureaucracy (esp local government). It's a heady mix.

But both countries have relatively recently liberalised their pornography laws to a massive degree (anal sex (etc, etc, etc) websites don’t seem to be suffering under the weight of the pure, sanitized, holy excrement of our puritanical societies), so maybe feeling the need to protect children is just a reaction to that.  

Personally, I think the “anime” thing is slightly dodgy (and very weird); being related to the schoolgirl/upskirt fetish that is big in Japan. But then Japan, apparently, has a low incidence of real child sex abuse. Maybe that tells us something?

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Personally, I think the “anime” thing is slightly dodgy (and very weird); being related to the schoolgirl/upskirt fetish that is big in Japan. But then Japan, apparently, has a low incidence of real child sex abuse. Maybe that tells us something?

I am sorry to say this is the same myth as Japan has a low incidence of rape. It is that there is a low incidence of reporting and hardly any incidence of prosecution and conviction. Talk to some Japanese women or a foreigner who has spent time there. What is different between these crimes in North America and in Japan is the impunity with which they are committed in Japan. Most crimes seem to be committed at a pretty consistent rate from society to society, what differs is how the crimes are accepted.

Can anyone here say what the stylistic difference is among figures drawn in Manga, Anime, Hentai and Lolicon? I believe there is great negative association to the word otaku and to the culture of otaku after a serial sex crime and murder case involving Lolicon. I understand that at the same time even Lolicon and series such as "Rape Man" are read by conventional men in public spaces.

I am working on my Mary Seuss character, a head strong female family law attorney in the form of a magic platypus who defends Horten in his custody case concerning the egg that Mayzie bird has abandoned.

Attached Link: TOS - Is Vicky 3 over 18???

This thread is interesting to me - not because of the issue of the TOS and gallery itself (those are an almost lost cause) but the comments of many here. It lets me know how far things have really shifted of late.

I find it interesting that we now live in a world where it is somehow considered crass or insane to recognize that some teen bodies are attractive. When Britney Spears hit she was 16 or so and many people recognized that she was just plain hot. I know, it's amazing in this day and age for someone to admit that anyone under 18 might be visually appealing but those were wilder days when civilization was on the verge of collapse. That was before the thought police came and saved us all by stamping out evil.

Aiko is a fictional character. She is a collection of polygons. She is not real. The constant witch hunt to try and figure out if a given render of a fictional actress portraying a fictional creature (fairies) are underage is just nuts.

Quote - I find it interesting that we now live in a world where it is somehow considered crass or insane to recognize that some teen bodies are attractive. When Britney Spears hit she was 16 or so and many people recognized that she was just plain hot. I know, it's amazing in this day and age for someone to admit that anyone under 18 might be visually appealing but those were wilder days when civilization was on the verge of collapse. That was before the thought police came and saved us all by stamping out evil.

It's a good thing that Vladamir Nabakov died when he did, or in this day and age he'd have been burnt at the stake for writing 'Lolita'.  Actually, that's one of my favorite books, and Nabakov added a whole new word to the English vocabulary -Nymphet.
It's a wonder that a similar fate hasn't met up with authoress Jean M. Auel.  Ayla, in 'Clan of the Cave Bear' is raped at the age of 10, and gives birth to her son Durc at 11.  In 'The Valley of Horses,' Jondalar initiates a barely pubescent Nuria in the rite of 'First Rites.'  In classical Athens, women were usually married off at age 13, and usually to men in their late twenties to mid-thirties (your classical dirty old man).  Throughout history, puberty has usually been associated with adulthood.  I'm not trying to advocate a radical change here, but I do insist on a broader perspective, especially when the specific subject matter is absolutely, and verifiable fictional.
David P. Hoadley

Use my Aiko PinUp Body Morph in freestuff, and no one will ever accuse you of rendering underaged females!!

Someone needs to contact those diaper companies and tell them to stop putting child porn on my TV!!!

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I think it's all absurb - it's a mesh.  But it's Rendo's gallery and if they don't want an image there, they can remove it. shrugs