on the ARTZONE PAGE...

Oh well, I ain't got access because I'm not a Platinum member.

What does this mean for the average D|S or Poser user?

Yeah thats nice but I for one can't get to the artzone page ..need to be invited by someone to acces it....

So it a bit of a no read like this

Chris

It means that I am already regretting pre-ordering Hexagon 2.

i would think some specials will be forthcoming, especially the way DAZ does things....

By the way... I have 10 INVITATIONS if anyone wants one. Artzone is a lot like MySpace...but for art stuff...the announcement was made there, with full press release tomorrow...probably when Eovia has theirs as well.

If anyone wants an ArtZone invite, drop me an IM with your e-mail address.  I've got some invitations left.

Quote - i would think some specials will be forthcoming, especially the way DAZ does things....

By the way... I have 10 INVITATIONS if anyone wants one. Artzone is a lot like MySpace...but for art stuff...the announcement was made there, with full press release tomorrow...probably when Eovia has theirs as well.

IM sent.

If anyone wants an ArtZone invite, drop me an IM with your e-mail address. 

IM sent ....

Chris

AHum...

We are currently only accepting DAZ accounts that are Platinum Club members

So thats a NO GO for me.....

Can't get in there...

Thnx anyway for the invite

Sorry it didn't work.  The other non-PC members I've invited have gotten in with no problem. 

It's still in Beta - a bit buggy. 

it may mean: no further development of transposer further development of software to move d|s models to bryce and hexagon carrara is dumped in favour of bryce hexagon is now the modelling adjunct to bryce

its kinda useless inviring only PC members...we all already got an invitation.

Sam...let me know if you have troubles...maybe its not wide open yet.

C'mon, let's have some leaks. Wot they sayin'?

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further development of software to move d|s models to bryce and hexagon - yup

carrara is dumped in favour of bryce - nope

hexagon is now the modelling adjunct to bryce - yup.

Just my own theories, anyway.

It's supposed to be open for anyone who gets an invite.  Dan Farr even said over at DAZ that anyone who wanted in should IM a PC member and ask for an invite. 

Maybe you need a DAZ account (non-PC)?  It's set up so it automatically takes your info from DAZ.  All you need is the e-mail address you use at DAZ.

My other invites went through.  I see the one I sent to BAR-CODE as "pending."

...that's the biggest disappointment I've run into so far in 3d.  Loyal Carrara user since version 3.  No more.

They aren't saying much about it.  Just this:

We're excited to announce that DAZ has acquired Eovia Corporation, developer and publisher of leading 3D animation, modeling and rendering solutions, based in Mountain View, Calif. The acquisition includes the Carrara and Hexagon product families as well as the key people and development teams that support them. This combination of DAZ and Eovia technologies provides the entire 3D community with a more powerful set of solutions for creating, managing, and rendering compelling 3D media. We believe the natural synergy that exists between the offerings of DAZ and Eovia has incredible potential. We hope you'll join us in welcoming the Eovia team to the DAZ family and we're certain you'll enjoy the results of this momentous acquisition. Keep an eye on the DAZ website and forums as the full announcement, including press release will hit tomorrow morning at 10AM EST.

I don't know about this. Eovia has the best customer support I've ever seen from a software developer...I can't say the same for DAZ.
But then again, a potential DAZ Studio/Carrara 5 Pro hybrid would put e-frontier out of business...well maybe.
Interesting times my friends!

Interesting.  What does this mean?

DAZ Productions is not acquiring Eovia Europe S.A.

What I want to know is where is Hexagon 2? The release date was the 24th. Is this going to delay it?

Quote - Interesting.  What does this mean?

DAZ Productions is not acquiring Eovia Europe S.A.

it just means that Eovia Europe is still a seperate company with ownership of Amapi, DAZ only purchased the California division of Eovia which I have been told is where Carrara and hexagon are developed, as well as hexagon and Carrara themselves.

Eovia Europe S.A. developes AMAPI and AMAPI Pro, guess Daz didn't get that.

Guess I'll save up for Lightwave 9 upgrade now instead of Hex2. damn.

No word about Daz buying Painter from Corel right?  There is still a few Metacreation apps out there Daz hasn't gotten yet.

UGH! I feel ill.

Hi everyone,

It looks as though I am stepping into a thread with a few people who are not so happy with the latest news. Hoepfully I can respond to a few of the concerns. The acquisition has not changed the delivery date of Hexagon 2.0 at all. The same developers that were working on it are still working on it. We entered into a contract with them to finish it through version 2.1. They are working hard to get it finished and out right away.

We will still continue to develop the different tools as they have previously been scheduled. The major expected change is to see better integration between all the tools in time. DAZ has been joined by some very talented programmers and marketing people who will add to our company. If you liked Eovia in the past, the same people who made it what it was will still be involved.

MichineClaw, Lightwave is a great product and so is Modo (our internal artist use both of them). If you are looking for a good alternative to Hex2 now that DAZ owns it, either of those will be great (albiet pricier) options.

Dan Farr

P.S. For those of you who have not pre-ordered Hex2 don't do it yet. There is some additional news that you should hear before you do.

...I'm with you, MachineClaw.  I'll be looking at Lightwave and C4D.  Really liked the last demo I tried of C4D.  Been a couple years though.

Quote - its kinda useless inviring only PC members...we all already got an invitation.

Sam...let me know if you have troubles...maybe its not wide open yet.

Yup, it wouldn't let me in. Oh well, thank you for trying.

P.S. For those of you who have not pre-ordered Hex2 don't do it yet. There is some additional news that you should hear before you do.

Interesting.  Special introductory discount?

Or is Nancy right...no more Transposer?

I can see I'm not going to be getting any work done tomorrow morning...

Dan, you might want to make a post in the Carrara forum (you own that proggie, not Poser ;-)).

There's some peeps hurting in there who could do with some reassurance. Don't worry, I'll be right behind you.

Couple of blocks behind...  ;-)

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Dan, some of us aren't familiar with Hexagon.  What kind of program is this?

Maybe they'll add a plugin that will allow import of obp's into carrara...

It's a 3D Polygonal Modeler.

http://www.eovia.com/products/hexagon/hexagon.asp

Hmmm...I'm not a modeller.  Is this a program that is relatively easy to learn?

I have not tried it myself.

But, after today...I bet that I had better, lol.

as far as modeling software goes I have been told that Hexagon is one of the easiest modelers to learn, I found it pretty easy but than I have been modeling for a few years now and am not sure how much that effects my learning curve.

i was told Silo was easy too...I still can't figure that out....maybe I should just be a buyer of someone else's models and textures:)

As 3d modelers go Silo is dead simple.  It's a bargain at $109.

Hexagon is basically similar to Wings, but just a lot more advanced, and able to handle a lot more and do a lot more. Hexagon 2 includes an excellent UV Mapping module, and 3D painting, like Body Paint and Deep Paint do. Hexagon 2 will also include the micro polygon displacemnt modelling that ZBrush has become famous for.

Hmm...well money wise if its between M4/V4 and a new program, I'll be selecting the figures...

Dan: Any consideration for PAs who's already preordered Hex2? (I know of at least 2 who are on the beta testing teams, an dbought it literally a few weeks ago.)

Well, I've been involved with Lightwave for ten years. You're under the impression that you can render Poser stuff there? Not the scenes. I quit using Lightwave for doing anything but making morphs for that reason. Lightwave IS a great product. For content CREATORS. NOT for content USERS. Newtek hasn't bothered to make it more compatible with ANY other 3D programs. The available plugins don't bridge the gap. I see no improvement in LW9, unfortunately. And that's why I do all my rendering in Carrara now.

I see this development as a move by DAZ to eat e-on's lunch for them. They will shortly be in a position to run Poser into the ground. Position DAZ Studio and Bryce as their entry level products, with Carrara and Hexagon as their high end products. Carrara is in a great position to move upscale, too. It already does all sorts of things you can't dream of doing in LW. LW does have a superior rendering engine. By a bit. If DAZ continues to develop Carrara in the direction its been headed, I expect to see that greatly improved, with the addition of many more effects, plugins, and so forth.

Bottom line, though? If you CREATE content, buy Lightwave. If you USE content, buy Carrara. I can't imagine DAZ antagonizing Carrara's large user base by trying to "replace" it with Bryce. They might decide to integrate the two, but I kind of doubt it. DAZ simply bought a couple of higher end tools so they can be your "one stop" 3D source. If anyone is in any danger, it's e-on. Vue doen't communicate well with anything. Carrara could easily be developed to gobble up THAT market.

Huh? Vue works damn well with MAX, Maya and Poser. What are you talking about? They are also about to release the plug-ins for Soft-image. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Quote - Dan Farr

P.S. For those of you who have not pre-ordered Hex2 don't do it yet. There is some additional news that you should hear before you do.

So that means those of us who did pre-order will get the shaft?

Jcleaver,

Even though we did not own Eovia at the time you made the pre-order I can assure you that we will do something for people who have pre-ordered. You will not "get the shaft" but will be getting more than you bargained for.

Dan

I'll agree with that.  I love Vue to pieces, but E-on is a PITA.  Their store that treats everyone like a potential thief.  Their horrible customer support.  Their automatic "upgrades" that break the program and leave you stuck until they release patch or force you to reinstall from the ground up. 

I'd been thinking about Carrera.  But I don't care for D|S or Bryce, so if they'll be supporting those programs instead of Poser, I don't think I'll be too interested.

as a longtime DAZ customer, I can see that they have treated their customers more than fairly. When something goes on sale, they reimburse previous purchasers, withing reasonable time frame. They have giveaways, and deals that can't be matched. Same when they released their version of Bryce. You couldn't beat the deals...added content, etc. I'm probably understating what they have done for their customers over the years.

Thanks Dan for the clarification.  I have never had any problems with DAZ, and wasn't really expecting any here.  You're statement though caught my eye, as this sort of thing has happened to me before in a similar situation.

John

Dan, when do you expect that DAZ will release all the details for those of us who are still considering whether or not to buy?

What bothers some (a lot?) of us Carrara users is daz history with software.  Bryce and d|s are not impressive.  Will they be able to keep the Carrara dev team?  In a post not long ago I think I read that they're all French.  (Correct me if I'm wrong.)  Will the Carrara dev team want to continue working for a US company whose main schtick is canned content marketed on a shopping channel model?  Will they want their carreers tied to that?  I dunno.  Time will tell.

Dan: I sent you a message over at Artzone concerning Hex2.. PLEASE read it, and consider the offered advise based on beta testing it for a few weeks now.

Oddly, Eovia's website shows no indication of any change.

I wonder if the separation means that Eovia of France will start

upgrading Amapi again?  I'd like that.

I'm a big Daz supporter although I haven't gotten the hang of Daz studio still preffer original Poser (old habits I guess) but I've been a platinum club member since day 1 and a new Art-zone members as well. I'm also a big fan of Eovia having owned carrara since the begining and Hex 1 as well. I have also preordered Hex 2. If this announcement has delayed Hex2 or delays my preorder retreval I will be pissed off. Mainly because I find it hard to believe that 2 weeks ago when the release date of Hex 2 was mid april, the the 18th to the 28th (promised to hit as close to the 18th as possible) that they didn't know this was in the works and could affect the release. I also hope that this doesn't mean that the eovia products are going to start swaying in the direction of support Daz Studio and leaving Poser behind. It's a main reason I own them now. I guess time will tell but as I get older I starting to understand the comments about change my grandparents used to quote. Not a big fan of the american greed and takeover fever. Been burned to many times in th last 10 years and seen to many of my friends let go and quality of life go down. Small businesses with great people doing great things get bought out and start worring more about %s of profit more than people and product. Fingers crossed and hoping this news turns out better than it sounds.

The developers for Carrara are French and they are located in the Mtn View offices and now work for DAZ. They are committed to see that Carrara continues without a hitch. We had them out to the office today meeting with our developers of Studio. It was a great meeting the future is very bright from our perspective. I know that there are going to be a lot of questions that exist but they will be answered in time. We are developing a fantastic game plan together that will ultimately lead to more capabilities and options for users of all the applications that we now offer. The synergy is very powerful.

Gary, I will look at your message and get back to you.

Dan

P.S. DAZ's "main schtick" will give us the power to do things that software companies alone will not be able to do. The Eovia team is very excited to have the added flexibity of a company with a broad offering and a large existing customer base.