Hi all

when i see the set of other people like Stonemason they have opening doors or moveble parts

How to i do that ? i just can't make head or tails from the poser manuals etc etc.

Say i make a wall with a door in it in a 3d program ..HOW do i make em work in poser ?!?!?!

i'm just totaly lost in it... 

Thnx Obi one kenobie's your my only hope :}

Attached Link: Poseable Double Hung Window Prop for Poser

Perhaps this tut may be of some help.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Hi Dr. Geep

I don't mean to be rude to you but i checked you tuts before because you make a lot of them.

But i can't use em.... why ? well i'm word blind and your tut how great they may be make me totally crazy..

All those colors and txt "flying" over the screen  i just can read em .

I know you tuts are good because people advice them to others but to me... the look like a merry go round..

Thnx anyway

And ohyeah i changed my name to BARcode because people start to name me BART :}

And my name is Chris

Hi Chris,

I do not think what you said was rude, it is never rude to state facts.

I'm sorry you can't use the tutorial that I suggested.

Please help me out here ... if you can.

What is "word blind?"
Sorry but I am ignorant on this.
I have never heard of it.

What would I need to do to make a tutorial that you could use?

I would be more than happy to try and accomodate your needs because I am sure you are not the only one in this situation.

Can you help me help you?

Thanks. ;=]

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Word blind is that you have trouble with word i can read Ok thats not the problem.

But when is read often i read the same line twice see a word and read an other  ..

An example.. my cpu has a fan from the company called asaka ... and i always readed it as : alaska.

My eyes sometimes see a word and fill in the word to my mind before i REALY read it...

And with tings that are colorfull and random wordt in it like your tut's is becoming realy difficult to focus on whats realy there...

I have a mild version of it other people have it more intense...

A tut thats clear in line and a steady makeup is far more easy to read for me

but there is no need to turn the CAPS on its called "blind" but i always had 20-20 vision.

Chris

Oh ..................... sorry. ;=[ .............. my ..... bad :b_sad:

Hi Chris,

Let me put something together and I'll post it here for your review.

What ... would      you     like     to      know      how      to      do     in    Poser

 ... something ......  simple  .... that ...... I .... can ....  try .....  to .....  do .....  on ....  one .... page.

Does ... a ....  sparator ........... help ....  like ....... this >>>>>>>>> ***********************

Does ..... it ...... help ...... if ....... words ...... are ...... spaced ...... out ...... like ...... this ???

YES ......................... NO .......................... MAYBE ........... What ..... about ....... colors ??? :b_confused:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

?????  thats not realy funny those lines .. but for your info that kind of line's with all those ... and *** etc etc makes it worse.

what i whould like to see is a tut like you do with the images but plain and simple

no flashy colors no un needed info "jokes" etc etc no cross link things . just plain text and explainings.

On the other hand i think the tut as you make it can be more difficult to non english people too.

But maybe you know the word dyslectic !? 

Thats what its called and like i already said i got a real mild form of it.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I am not trying to be funny at all ................ on the contrary .... it is the opposite ..... I am serious..

I am trying to learn what would make a better tutorial for someone like you.

You have given me some good feedback.

Let me see what I can do.

Is there a specific question that you would like to have answered about Poser?

BTW - What version of Poser do you have?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Hang in there..Doc's a good egg, and has helped a lot of people (even me..;), and his heart's in the right place. Good luck.

like the thread says :} i whould like to know how to make things "poseble?"

If i have a wall and a door how do i make em so that the door can open etc etc ...

I think that for the rest its all the same thing is it not ? door that opens chains the can be moved etc etc.

Thnx for the help !

Ohyeah i work with P6

Chris

yeah, there is a challenge for you, geep! make universal (image-only) versions of your tutorials that any non-english-reading person (japanese, chinese, italian, french, dyslexic) might use them just think of the commercial possibilities

miss nancy wrote:

that any non-english-reading person (japanese, chinese, italian, french, dyslexic) <== !?!

Hahaha kewl is there a country for dyslectic people   :b_funny:  wonder who write's the law down there .

C

Ah, EXCELLENT !!!

Let me see what I can do.

I will post it here in this thread when I have something ...

... especially for you Chris.

Thanks for the challenge. ;=]

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

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@ pakled .............. Thank you for them kind words. ;=]

Attached Link: http://www.sams3d.com

Okay, the tut is up, it is towards the bottom of the page, you need to download the chest model also.  Hope it helps you.  Sharen

Hi Chris,

Here is a sample.

I call it TWT or ................ Tuts Without Text.  :biggrin:

Does something like this work for you ?

Can you suggest any changes?

Would using ........  Black & White or ............ Greyscale ......... be better?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Hi Geepster :}

Looks good but i never said no text... what whould be ideal is that next to the "image" say No1

There is a Box with the explaining text, so you wil have the image that speaks 70% for itself

and next to it the explaining of it..

Image1 :explaining "delete the standart figure that poser loads. so you will have a empty scene.

Image2 :explaining "load from the props section under primitives the Box Object.

Image3 : explaining etc etc etc etc etc

You got my idea ?

If you do it like this i think even more people start to get the things 90% faster.

I think in real life your a funny dude that like to make joke's etc etc, but in a tut they can be a bit of a pain.

Specialy for non englishs people like me, who don't always get the joke and wonder what you mean by it.

And i think this kind of tuts are mutch better to SELL  :b_cool: hehehe...

So your on the right track for sure but make it like i said txt in a box next to the image.

And i think you can upgrade from DR.Geep to PROFESSOR GEEP :thumbupboth:

 EDIT !! i just saw the gray version COLOR is better than grey !!

Thnx for the time you put into this

Chris " who is going to Bed now its late at night here "2:07 AM"

Trying something different ... :unsure: ... Pages 1 & 2 ...

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Trying something different ... :unsure: ... Pages 3 & 4 ...

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Trying something different ... :unsure: ... Pages 5 & 6 ...

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

This looks Great!!

And to me its much easyer to follow :}

Looking forward to the rest !!

Chris

Ask Sharen (sams3d) for her "chest" tutorial.  She has a nice tutorial on how to turn a chest prop into a figure with a lid that opens. 

Here are Pages 7 & 8.

Now, we have 2 new objects that we created from Poser's Box prop.

Next, we will:

1. Parent the Top to the Bottom
2. Adjust the "Origin" of the "Top" to make it hinge properly
3. Save the compound prop (2 objects)  in the Props Library

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

P.S. Questions are always welcome.

Thanks very much for the tuts, they will come in very handy.

Richard

Hi ProF GEEP hehehe...

i just got one little Q for your A .. where do i start the tut when i made the to props in a other 3d program ?

But ill wait till the tut is finished :} maybe that will be clear then.

Its looks OK and is good to follow so far...

Chris

Hi all. Hi Geep.

Just regarding a certain way of being that some people call dyslexia.

For some people it works like this, while most people can filter visual stimulea to see it in a linear form if need be... left to right and going down the page in the case of  English text, some people, mainly visual rather than verbal thinkers, have difficulty with this filtering. They see the letters running backward and forward, up and down, diagonals and zig-zags simultaneously... they must use the cognitive rather than precognitive portion of their mind to try to filter out the "non-sensical" letter permutations.

This can be tiring, and this can be much worse when one is tired. My child was being forced to learn counting in multiples using tables. We can both do it by chanting the numbers (10, 20, 30,40...) but looking at the chart, even with the multiples hi-lighted, I actually see a flickering cloud of numbers no matter how hard I focus. This is not a psychological matter, it is purely physiological I believe. my other kid though is horrendously linear.

With this condition of text perception it is necessary to do the mental equivalent of reading with one's finger running under the lines of text... text in lines too short or too long start to flip-flop. Lines that are placed irregularly also are hard to apprehend. Colored text causes confusion because one is distracted by the pattern of color blocks on the page.

I don't believe in accommodations since life makes no accommodations. I believe in adaption though, typing instead of writing because if you don't look at the screen while you type you are dealing mainly  with motion patterns, imagining a line running from the back of your head to a point on the page that you scan. I don't know any phone numbers, not even my own or my mothers, except as patterns on the key pad... my mother types on a keyboard with the letters completely worn off. I read mainly by recognizing the pattern of shapes and how the fall above and below the middle area and basically perceive the text of at least three lines at once as though they were pictograms.

This problem with text is often found in artists and strangely enough in mathematicians... also sometimes surgeons and engineers. People who can process three-dimensional reality dynamically, who are conscious of the 3D maps the mind constantly makes to navigate. Who can see the backs of things at the same time as the front. The amount of 3D information can be overwhelming and the tendency to perceive multi-dimensional patterns such as those on a page of text can be distracting.  The habit of focusing on details to sift through visual stimulea allows a fine apprehension of detail, as a teacher doing adult education over the years I often had students who were surgeons who could not write but whose first drawings were at the level of a second or third year student. I often see images here that have terrible fatal flaws in the individual features that seem to elude people who see a face holistically.

There are certain indicators associated with the phenominea, practical things like having to even as an adult sing the alphabet song to know which letters come before which, having to break words into short sing-song 2, 3, and 4 letter patterns to spell them, "seeing" the back and sides of ordinary objects like a computer terminal while looking at the front of it, placing things behind the head when visualizing them and having a map of what is behind one (I sit with my back to the wall in restaurants but end up imagining what is behind the wall). Maybe most importantly, thinking without any internal monologue or pre-verbalization.

You may have noticed how I break my text into paragraphs and how my spelling is when I don't have my spellcheck. I type and spell check notes to the teacher before handwriting them out. I also have two master's degrees from prestigious American universities.

Anyway, this is what I think BAR-CODE was referring to.

Geep,don't go changing, to try and please me, you never let me down before.

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<br></br>Just be yourself... no apologies. You are a mensch :)<br></br>

Hi momodot,

Thank you for that very informative post ................. and the nice compliment.

It may help some of us realize about some of the difficulties with which some folks have to contend on a daily basis.

We all need to be a little more tolerant of those that may not have been blessed with perfect senses and yet, still have a magnificently functioning brain.

"There, but for the Grace of GOD, go I."

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Quote - ... where do i start the tut when i made the to props in a other 3d program ?

Hi Chris,

I sent you an IM but in case you don't receive it, I'll repeat it here.

If you would like to email me the prop or props that you are using, I will try to incorporate it/them into the tutorial.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Here, we see that there are
2 ways to make a prop poseable ...

We can:

1. Use multiple objects ... and ... "parent" one object to another
   = or =
2. Convert the objects into a (poseable) Poser figure

= and =

We, also, see that there are
2 ways to "parent" one object to another.

We can:

1. Use the menu to "Change Parent"
   = or =
2. Use the Hierarchy Editor

We will look at all of these methods.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Pages 13 and 14.

Posing the prop ...

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

I just can't wait for this tut to be ready and try it out.. it looks simple the way you put it

and i think it needs a pivot point or so..

Thnx

Chris

Hi Chris,

A pivot point ??? :blink:

You are absolutely CORRECTAMUNDO !!! :biggrin:

It's called the "origin" and it's coming up next.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Hahahah ... im working with 3Dmax at the moment so i know a little 3D etc etc...

And im making a simple wall and door to try your tut out :}

Chris

Let's look at the "origin" of a prop object.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Let's make sure we are all using the same Display Units.

Then we can move the origin.

Now, we can "open" the box ....................... can't we? :biggrin:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Dr.geep wrtoe in his tut :

What parameters do we change to open the box ?

Well euh mmmm . if you don't know ... how can you teach us :lol:

just kidding...  it still looks realy fine to me...

Chris

Did you guess correctly? :biggrin:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

*** POP QUIZ ***:b_confused:
There is something we can do to our box to make it look better ... can you guess what it is?

Hint - It is NOT the colors that Doc has used. :biggrin:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

There is something we can do to our box to make it look better ... can you guess what it is?..

>>

Go to the K-Mart and buy a can of spraypaint ?

chris

Because ..................... ?

ok lets put some mapping on it? or edit it in a 3d program, or or ..well TELL me your the Docktor :}

Here's another hint .... What is the name of my class?

And yet, a 3rd hint ... This box wouyld look better if we could see the _____________ of it.

ok ok lets make it double sided... so we can have maps on the inside to... or something like that :}

Chris

 if i got all the questions do i get a CAR ?

How can we make it double sided?

hahaha i dunno i never make prop in poser ...

when i make something with holes or a open box its double sided..

Chris

Never in Poser?

Hmmm .... we must fix that. ;=]

Here are pages 21 & 22.

;=]

Here are pages 23 and 24.

;=]

i feel the end here ? or is there more to come ??

Chris