I haven't looked at the Poser gallery for a while - but I read now and then posts that bring up how many naked lady warrior, queens, fairies, mystics, angels, etc there are and have been.  Looking just now, I saw that indeed there is a plethora of these big boobed, tiny waist, huge, raging hair women.  Kind of amazing really that that's what so much energy and rendering time is spent on.  I don't mean to judge it at all - it just an observation that I didn't realize was as prevelant as it is.

Hmm - so maybe the June challenge could be not to load (and thereby not render) V3, A3, Miki, Alexa, The Girl, Steph, etc etc for the whole month.   Heh heh - Now, I think that actually might really be a challenge.  : )  Are some of us men, man enough for that?  : )  (I do mean that a little facetiously but it actually might be fun to see what happens).

Meanwhile, a lot of work all over is really quite good - the Vue gallery, the Bryce and Carrara galleries and the Poser galleries have got some really well done work in them - staid subjects or not.

Dave

Yeah, but what would be the FUN of all that.  Your challenge sound almost like a criticism, and one that's been discussed here ad nauseam already.  You really want to throw down the gauntlet of this issue again?  Fine, I'll be Knight Errant to pick it up.
First and foremost, most of us PLAY around with Poser for our pastime, and not our employment, and therefore we want out pastime to be filled with what is most enjoyable to us, not what is most challenging.  There is enough of that in our regular work routine to more than satisfy any innate desire to test our mettle. 
Second, tell me Sir, what is there '... in the Heavens above, or the Earth beneath, or the Waters under the Earth,' that is more fun than playing around with a willing naked women, be she either flesh and blood or digital.

Nay, I'll stick with my naked beauties, and leave the artsy stuff to you.
Yours truly,
David P. Hoadley

3ddave, obviously you need to keep "abreast" of the times LOL

"Hmm - so maybe the June challenge could be not to load (and thereby not render) V3, A3, Miki, Alexa, The Girl, Steph, etc etc for the whole month.   Heh heh - Now, I think that actually might really be a challenge.  : )  Are some of us men, man enough for that?  : )  (I do mean that a little facetiously but it actually might be fun to see what happens)."

I prefer to work with Eve 4.  She comes comeplete with full functioning genitals -so that gives you a clear indicative of where my penchant lies.

" ...obviously you need to keep "abreast" of the times LOL"

Mathman, that is a REAL funny rejoinder, I'm going to have to write that down and remember it.  More power to you.
DPH

pavlov would have a field day with this.

Quote - pavlov would have a field day with this.

Do you mean: 'Show the boob, and we all salivate?' or 'Post the "Mudity vs. Art" theme and we all work ourselves into a frenzy?'

Yeah, I guess your right, he would at that.  But pleonastic, it's such an enjoyable frenzy! ; -)

Just love the subject title  "Boobs Galore". Reminds me of a British film called "Whisky Galore". Seriously guys, I've decided to spend more time rendering, and less on the forum due to the overwhelming reaction to my latest effort. (NOT). I think the gallery (all catergeries) has a good mix of pictures (that's all they are). There is some stunning photography and amazing 3D work. Maybe we are all becoming somewhat jaded. Sometimes I just sit and look blankly at the Google page without inspiration and ..........zzzzzzz.
 

I'll throw my two cents in, and probably won't get liked very much for it I'm sure.

But, what the hey.   I realize, the majority of renders and images that are flocked to, posted on like mad and get the most views, are that of naked women.  I have men and women in my gallery, and to see what the effect would be, did a fully nude male, instead of a woman.   Not very much reaction, i assure you

if i place a breast or hint of one in the thumbnail, whooboy, its viewed like magic.

This tells me the obvious that we as the human race have known for centuries.  A naked woman draws attention.  Nothing new here.

I am definately not opposed to the naked female (or male) form in artwork, far from it, i think its lovely.  However, even one open as myself to flesh in artform, can get very ...... uh, tired, of the same old thing.  I think the point is, its not the naked woman thats the isuse, its the form and format.  Its sorta like looking at photo's of pamela anderson all day, and after the 100th shot of her thinking, gee, i'd rather see some tyra banks.   It just gets old, and looses the effect after a while.  Not repulsive, just "bored" with it.

In the poser gallery, i tend to totally overlook and forgive the usual naked woman.   Usually new poser users, fascinated, but who cant paint clothes.  THerefore, their renders are naked.  Heck, i did the same thing at first until i got the handle of painting and using poser.

I just suppose as a woman, at some point, i stop even looking at artwork containing the a-typical fantasy female.   When you know how a woman's anatomy really is, and its natural flaws, the absolute often pornographic presentation of a woman in the fantasy genre, seems cartoonish, and a slight mockery of the female body.  Granted, thats how it is with me, I cannot speak for others.

I got complaints of painting a big breasted woman in oils quite a while back, because on the sides of her overlylarge breasts, i painted the realism........ stretchmarks in the skin.  It is pretty sad, when the realism of a woman's body is shunned.

 

 

 

Hey, I'm fairly new to Poser and have never engaged in one of these threads, so I thought I'd throw my two cents worth in, as well....

As an openly and happily gay man with an art degree, I say, "Boobs galore?  Yay!" 

What pleases me about this community is not the boobs, or the weenies or whatever; it's that it's engaging people's artistic inclinations.  Sure, the postings that look like somebody bought a plastic Barbie doll and contorted it into a mildly suggestive pose may not be my idea of "art," but if it is somebody's artistic expression, more power to it.  My preference is more aligned to Tiari's -- I prefer the imperfections of humanity in art.  But others probably view art as the chance to depict what they wish humanity were, or what they feel humanity can aspire to.  The galleries are mostly filled with bodacious babes who probably will never be hung in a museum a century from now, but that's fine.  What's important to me is that people have the chance to express their artistic vision.

Poser, Bryce, Carrara, Terragen and more offer folks the tools to create images that look good.  Many of these folks don't have the artistic skill (or perhaps even the physical capability) to wield a pencil, brush, or chisel, but still have a vision that they want to convey.  If these tools can allow people to get their vision out, it's only for the best.

So, I say, if boobies are your thing, go for it.  And if they're not, don't.  But whatever you're interested in expressing, just express it.  The man who created Ray Dream (which is the precursor to Carrara) said that he wanted to bring the ability to create high-quality 3D images to the masses.  That he succeeded is remarkable.  What's more remarkable is how well the masses have responded to having that ability.

I too understand the impedous, especially from new Poser users to make fantasy bodacious women.  (I wonder what people are up to using the program and not even rendering these creations?  dialing up UP UP and squishing and zooming in and out are a few things that seem likely...)  But I still think it would be interesting to see what other models and products people have in their arsenals and what other visions may be lurking in their minds (unless it could be that there are no others).  Stretching a bit might be fun - after all, these women won't be going anywhere, they'll still be right there in your folders.  So far though, it sounds like it's much too daunting a prospect for a real Monthly challenge.  Interesting.  I'm surprised on the one hand and not on the other.  : )  

There is absolutely no way I wish to either look at, or render clothed people in the forums and galleries.  For that, all I have to do is look out the window.
I look to art to transport me out of my mundane existance, not to reinforce it.  I wish my poser art to reflect my aspirations, not my reality.  I like my women bare breasted, and my vista's broad: the two things I don't see from my fourth floor apartment, slap dab in the middle of Israel's largest metropolis.  Which is why, of my three renderings in my gallery so far, one is a slavering wolf in the midst of a forest; the next is a nude, lone, alien female yearning for her home world; the last is a seascape, dipicting a sailboat just getting underway. 
I've rendered other pictures over time, but the majority of these were test renders (all of them in the buff, against a blank background) of characters that I've created in either Posette, or Eve.
One thing I especially like about my nude Poser Posettes, they don't argue with me like too many of the flesh and blood females in my life; and if mood ever strikes me, I don't have to talk them into complience.  Having said all that, then I think it's all too clear -I'd have to be insane to want to put clothes on them.  They're beautiful just the way they are!

Where do you get Eve??

More power to you, dphoadley!  Art is so good for taking people to new places, and it's so powerful to, as you put it, transport people out of their mundane existence.

And it's also fun to be challenged by, if you're thusly inclined.  That's what I love about art; it can be something different to every person alive!

Attached Link: Download for Eve 4.

Here's a link as to where to download Eve. And Here's a sample of the 'Art' that I've rendered, with  characters that I've created with Eve.  Can anybody tell me how the heck this picture could have been enhanced with clothes?  Nudity is not just erotica and porn; the whole thrust of the Naturist movement is to return to a natural state of existance.  There is no way that I'll ever become a Naturist in reality, but that doesn't mean that my 'Art' can't celebrate its philosophy. DPH

For some reason, this picture doesn't want to upload.

I've spent two months perfecting this figure, (based on a live model) from photos kindly posted by clifftoppler to his gallery.  The figure is Eve 4, the pose is the default Poser pose, and the backdrop is the default slate grey; but I challenge anyone to show me a superior figure than my clone of Marie.  Her physique is a feast of the senses, and perfection in itself; in my lights, it doesn't need any further enhancement of pose or backdrop.  (Or maybe that's an excuse because I'm lazy.  Whatever, I like this picture the way it is.) I plan to upload her soon to Raunchyminds freestuff.  If any would like to test drive her, send me an email to: dph@013.net.il

Well I'm doin' my part to increase te ratio of Seksy Men to Big Boobed Wymen!

 

Nice **Mizrael**, although at raunchyminds, you could have gotten away without the G-string.  There I've seen a plethora of body parts besides boobs, some of them quite interestingly rendered.  There is nothing wrong with the erotic, it is a natural part of our lives.  Walt Whitman celebrated the pure beauty of life and the flesh in his poetry; there is no reason why we can't do the same in Poser (And maybe the difficulty that we have with conformong clothing might be a veiled message from on high, it certainly should serv as an object lesson.) I have developed 5 characters based on Posette Eve 4.  Each one has been a challenge, and a search for perfection within the constraints of my chosen medium (i.e. the limitations of the P4 mesh, and my own inability to control magnets, while relying on hundresd of Facial and Body  MT's gleaned from various sources, including, but not exclusive of, the charity of various forum members -the chief of whom is momodot). For me, the figures themselves are works of art, and for me, its a real sin to hide the perfection of their form with clothes.

And now, having said all that, I think its time to go in search of a 'nother dead horse to beat.
David P. Hoadley

Quote - I haven't looked at the Poser gallery for a while - but I read now and then posts that bring up how many naked lady warrior, queens, fairies, mystics, angels, etc there are and have been.  Looking just now, I saw that indeed there is a plethora of these big boobed, tiny waist, huge, raging hair women.  Kind of amazing really that that's what so much energy and rendering time is spent on.  I don't mean to judge it at all - it just an observation that I didn't realize was as prevelant as it is.

That kinda reminds me of that episode of the Jerry Seinfeld show where he is mistakenly "outed"

Jerry: There's been a big misunderstanding here! We did that whole thing for your benefit. We knew you were eavesdropping. That's why my friend said all that. It was on purpose! We're not gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that...

George: No, of course not...

Jerry: I mean that's fine if that's who you are...

If you substitute the "gay" part for "naked" doesn't it sound like the same sentiment? I wonder if the same attitude is involved? Kinda of a paradox for artists I would think with the dichotomy of different traditons right? Which rationale would you follow?

I say bend over V3... you look better that way.  Naw! but really, I'm just learning this and that going from poser to poser (4 to 5 to 6), and when I'm sick of seeing my models bend over ever so suggestively , then and only then will I try to render other stuff.