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Subject: Bryce 6
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About what? (Just kidding)
About Bryce 6? Nothing. (Unfortunately not kidding)
This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.
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Yes, sometime at the start of the Siggraph floor exhibition, which is August 1st-3rd.
And, even that info is not official, so yeah, I wouldn't go holding any breath, but...Siggraph is where all the companies announce their new version info's, so I wouldn't see why DAZ would be any different.
But no worries, Bryce 6 is approaching. I can see the event horizon now, lol.
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One interesting little snippet I picked up on whilst researching my amusing exchange with AgentSmith over at DAZ, was that the Corel team were reportedly well along into developing Bryce6 before they were suddenly no longer developing Bryce at all. (can't find the bleedin link now, mutter, mutter...)
Assuming that incomplete work was passed onto DAZ, maybe there will be quite a lot of new stuff in Bryce6 after all. Or maybe it wasn't passed on and Bryce6 will be a few new goodies on top of the profound code rewrite by DAZ. Or maybe it was passed on but DAZ couldn't use it because of the code revision. Or maybe DAZ have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes and Bryce6 is has loads of new stuff by them as well as the code work.
Speculation is fun. We only have a couple more days of it (plus the OT and bickering), and then the forum will be awash with discussion of actual Bryce information.
Will it be yay, hey, hey; or doom 'n gloom? Let's speculate!
"I am actually considering either Vue or Carrara if there does not appear to be an upgrade to Bryce by this fall. Which would be sad cause I have using Bryce for pretty close to 10 years now!"
I already went with Carrara (and might even buy the Pro version before I go to bed). But that doesn't mean I'll be dropping Bryce. Bryce5 is still just as good as when I bought it, and still extremely useful as a tool I know well. I shall be a Brycer for a long time to come.
If Bryce6 is:
- not changed too much (my learning curve leads to Carrara)
- not buggered up by bugs
- containing a sufficient amount of new stuff (amount to be determined)
then I shall consider getting it. But I'll probably wait until DAZ takes its interminable time to fix the bugs, by which time it will be available on some discount or other.
Unless it's utterly frelling amazing, of course, in which case I'll be fighting you lot to the checkout. :-D
..."an upgrade to Bryce by this fall..."
Yeah, it looks as if DAZ will be able to pull of what they said; "Bryce 6 in 2006". Which means anytime before Dec. 31st, lol.
Speculation is fun
Speculation gives me grey hair!
Like PJF lays it out, is how I think it may go for many...meaning, users are going to be more cautious this time around for a Bryce upgrade. They will watch, wait...watch some more...play with their cheaply purchased Carrara....watch some more, lol.
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Btw, a little OT...but another program which is closer to coming out with a new Windows version (finally) is Groboto!
Remember Groboto? There may be a link still on their site about sigining up for beta-testing of the windows version....(must have WinXP), (which has started).
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Well, they do have access to the Carrara codebase and programmers...
Although for me it will be:- Look at Bryce 6, get the car serviced, get textbooks etc, think about B6, pay the bills, think a bit more... etc
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Any beta testers will have signed a NDA (Non-disclosure agreement) with Daz, meaning they won't be able to say a word. Probably not even a hint.
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LOL, Vile. I guess ur right. I just haven't matured enough to appreciate drugs, sex, and violence for the masses. TV is probably on in my household 4-5hr per week now, but while my family's viewing habits were being monitored I made it a point at having TV on in evening and not on the stupid stuff. If there was nothing worthwhile on the networks, I,d put a movie in the DVD or let my kids go at the video games. That was logged also. I felt I'd get my vote in against the other stuff because the tv was on but not viewing the programs. (didn't work apparently)
Now, back to our program. Bryce 6.... today....fingers crossed.
don't feel bad..many years ago I got gigged on a radio survey..what station did I listen to? (they were all non-commercial college stations), wasn't on his list, what commercial stations? Had some young kid who listened to the most awful radio station in the repair area all day long, and I admitted that..so they went down that I listened to it, even though I CAN'T STAND IT!..;)
I'm of the age where Neilsen follows me around and cancels the shows I like..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
In theory, the Bryce betatesters - assuming there is such a thing - could tell you, but then they'd have to kill you. On the other hand - they could give us a hint and then just rough us up a little.......
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I'm not at Siggraph this year, or I would have a DAZ staffer in a headlock making them type out B6 news with their nose, lol.
Like I said (in some other thread) Siggraph absolutely sucks your life away (in a good way), so my bet that the news wouldn't be spilt on the 1st itself seems to be happenning.
(As the people who would have the clout to tell us about B6 are at Siggraph)
(probably partying down with Ken Musgrave, lol)
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Between us there is a "traitor" of Bryce community... someone who knows... some Bryce beta-tester that don't give us just a hint, hours before the official B6 announcement ...
If you, beta-tester, came out AFTER the B6 announcement telling us "Yes, I know all since one year ago", I will render you inside an unlighted Bryce (Bryce 2) scene full of cactus, and I will save you as you are leaving you there for eternity... ;)
This is not a threat, is a promise!
Who knows speaks!
The point, to me at least, is if you have successfully updated a program with even ONE (1) new feature, you should brag your A$$ off about it to your customers, even if it will be MONTHS until it reaches them, as it encourages them to think of the program in a more positive light. Other companies do this, and it WORKS for THEM.
Why does Daz refuse to do this? What would they lose if they did?
This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather....not screaming in terror like the passengers on his bus." - Jack Handy
If you are tired of waiting and want to drool a bit then why not go and check out Vue 6 instead ? ;-)
Attached Link: e-on's August 2nd Press Release
I will always love my Bryce, but have been very closely watching for the unveiling of Vue 6 Infinite. As attlleus mentioned above, I've been drooling ever since. If you can afford to do so, having both of these appy's in your 3D tools arsenal might not be a bad thing. Yesterday's e-on press release announced how V5I was used by ILM in creating some of the scenes for Pirates of the Caribbean & looked very impressive:http://www.e-onsoftware.com/about/press_materials/?page=..%2FPRIndex&date=August%201,%202006
Today's press announcement finally unveiled just what V6I has in store for you as reported by RO's Vue mod, agiel, direct from e-on's SIGGRAPH booth:
Here are some of the new features that will be available in Vue 6*:
EcoSystems Generation II with interactive real-time EcoSystem painting and layered EcoSystem materials
Spectral atmosphere engine with Spectral clouds and MetaCloud technologies
Flicker-free SolidGrowth 4 plant technology
Ventilators for local wind effects
An entirely re-written radiosity engine for fast indoor and outdoor realistic lighting
New animation graph editor for precise control over keyframes and time curves
Absorption and multiple internal scattering (Sub-Surface Scattering)
Large Amplitude displacement mapping
Volumetric shaders and HyperTextures
Motion Tracking import from Boujou or MatchMover
Multi-shape area Lights (convert any object into a light emitter)
Re-posing of Poser characters directly inside Vue
- Not all features are available in all products
A detailed description of the new features can be found at:
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/vue6
If you follow the attached Aug. 2nd press release link, you can watch a QT movie showing the latest features from V6I.
FYI - for those of you (like me) who purchased Vue 4 esprit way back when they offered it for $99 to registered Bryce users, you can side grade to V5I for $479 which currently sells for $579. If you purchase V5I by tomorrow, Aug. 3rd, then when V6I is available, you will be able to upgrade for FREE. The current listed price for V6I is Nodelocked License: $695 and for a Floating License: $795. So sidegrading to V5I now (if you afford to do so) wouldn't be a bad deal. I know many of you are going the Carrera route - I don't blame you. It also looks to be an amazing proggy that undeniably will grow and continue to get better & better. I mention this as info to those looking into all possible options. Whatever floats your boat best - then go for it!
Wouldn't it be amazing if this unveiling sparked the technicians working on Bryce to even better heights? I feel they both have their strong points and watching at least one appy take advantage of 64 bit integration is indeed very exciting!
I dare you, while there is still time, to have a magnificent obsession. --William Danforth
That does indeed sound highly intriguing. Wish I could get my paws on it now but as it is, I'll have so much to learn in just getting a handle on an appy new to me, my head's going to be spinning.
Does anyone know what is meant by a "nodelocked" & "floating" license? These terms are new to me. I'm guessing nodelocked means an install on only one computer, where a "floating" one allows you to install on a set number ie: 2 computers?
I dare you, while there is still time, to have a magnificent obsession. --William Danforth
There were two important aspects of Carrara that made me choose it over Vue, despite the latter having a clear lead in the area of natural vegetation and giving the impression of a more secure future.
Carrara is a more all-round 3D app than Vue, and Carrara is much more stable than Vue.
Even amongst its fans Vue is regarded as buggy and unreliable. And most worrisome of all - it has always been thus regarded. The bugs of Vue5 Infinite will not be fixed until Vue6, and they'll most likely be replaced by Vue6's own bugs which won't get fixed until Vue7. Sod that.
When DAZ bought Carrara, I was nearly put off. I find DAZ very unconvincing as software developers (so far), which is why I "gave up on" Bryce. But DAZ kept the Carrara team and kept them out of the DAZ building (and hopefully, out of the worst aspects of the culture). The user-base-building promotional offers were the clincher.
"It will be reveiled at Siggraph '06 (1-3 Aug.) - am I right? :-)"
I'm very sorry, but I couldn't resist...
I know you meant "revealed", but given the comments in this thread, then you might well have been right (re-veiled - once again hidden away....)
My apologies for being specious and OT...
Cheers,
Diolma
AgentSmith wrote:
"...so my bet that the news wouldn't be spilt on the 1st itself seems to be happenning.
(As the people who would have the clout to tell us about B6 are at Siggraph)."
DAZ are making press releases about their announcements at SIGGRAPH (two yesterday - the 1st). If we're not hearing anything about Bryce6 it's because DAZ has made no announcement yet, not even at Booth #2400.
Maybe they're going to wait until the dust settles after e-on's Vue6 blurb.
Attached Link: Bryce 6 Debut @ SIGGRAPH
> Quote - Maybe they're going to wait until the dust settles after e-on's Vue6 blurb.Hmm.....y'all might want to keep an eye on this thread over at da Commune.
I know I will.....
I dare you, while there is still time, to have a magnificent obsession. --William Danforth
I've also been keeping an eye on the press releases, although the time differences don't help me.
Come visit us at RenderGods.
Ignore the shooty dog thing.
Too busy at SIGGRAPH?
Yessss....
Too much fun at SIGGRAPH?
Yessss....
And what about the Renderosity staff SIGGRAPH 2006 Live Coverage since today?
The Paula Sanders Report:
Just five pictures and some spare lines about the arrival at SIGGRAPH.
The Renderosity's Marketing Manager Lillian Hawkins report:
Just a lot of funny pictures with peoples wearing the Renderosity T-Shirt
The Renderosity's Vue Moderator agiel [Laurent Alquier] report:
Some spare pictures taken randomly and some spare lines
The Conferences, Expos and Workshops Forum:
Nothing about Conferences, Expos and Workshops.
We must read the some news on the new Bryce 6 on 3D COMMUNE (!?)...
I've been to fairs like SIGGRAPH many times, and I know that you have no time at all, also to go to WC, so I can understand this lack of news... but if you know that you will have no time (and they know), why promote the SIGGRAPH 2006 Live Coverage on the front page?
;)
From the 3D Commune crew:
"Daz asked for a wish list, and delivers as promised, and then some!
All of the most requested and desired features are present and accounted for."
Pretty frustrating that so few of those desired and requested features are actually mentioned in their account.
"This is the info we were able to obtain in a very limited amount of time."
So how do they know?
DAZ GUI colours - pah
Libraries - pah
Random multirep - nph
Export Bryce objects - nyhhm...
16bit texture editor - yay
IBL - yay
But is it HDRI or just "HDRI effect"?
What about GI / radiosity? Caustics? Did no one request those? ;-)
Argh
Duo: Only if you used earlier versions of Vue...and if you have a few hundred bucks! :-) Thank God E-on implemented enough of "Bryce Intuition" in their excellent software so that a (former) Brycer can find his way after a month. I like how E-on reponds to the users; last year we asked for fat clouds, Displacement Mapping and paint-in Ecosystem among others...now we have it but I'm still interested in my secondary software Bryce and want to see if it'll be some acceptable updates. (G.I. for ex.)
Quote - http://www.3dcommune.com/3d/forum.mv?Bryce+read+8845433114
Some info, you all might enjoy :)
Yep dl, that's the link I posted 5 replies above yours. ;)
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Anyone heard anymore news?